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Where's my iPad Alternative Tablet?

Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by itzme, Nov 9, 2010.

  1. Nov 11, 2010 #41 of 130
    hdtvfan0001

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    ...and our Fortune 500 IT division won't allow anything that has an Apple logo anywhere near an employee's desk...and they give us a long, but distinguished list of good reasons why not...

    Since they spend far more than $600-$700 for laptops every day of the week, and order them in lots of 100 at a time...that price point issue simply is a non-issue.
     
  2. Nov 11, 2010 #42 of 130
    Steve

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    So they'll spend twice as much as a netbook to provide an inferior user experience for those particular applications. That makes sense. :rolleyes:
     
  3. Nov 11, 2010 #43 of 130
    hdtvfan0001

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    Nope.

    They just don't believe in buying "toys" to operate enterprise software upon.
     
  4. Nov 11, 2010 #44 of 130
    Steve

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    I'm not saying they should buy iPads. Don't know where you got that from. I'm saying if they truly need to run Windows apps, the netbook makes more sense from a price and usability standpoint.

    Now if all the corporate apps are browser based, they can use anything. iPads, Droids, Win 7 and soon RIM and Palm
     
  5. Nov 11, 2010 #45 of 130
    hdtvfan0001

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    We're talking enterprise class applications - some are and some are not browser based.

    Running that stuff on a netbook would be like putting KMart tires on a Bentley. Those applications have tons of real-time functionality that require something with more horsepower than a netbook.

    In addition, having actually used a netbook to run MS Office 2007....I'd say no thanks anyway...too slow and cumbersome.

    As for iPads...not gonna happen. We have over 15,000 employees using various forms of PCs and laptops, as well as mobile devices...the company has reviewed the iPad thoroughly, and determined it would introduce more problems than solutions it might bring.
     
  6. Nov 11, 2010 #46 of 130
    Alan Gordon

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    I'll still be getting a iPad II come next year, but the Asus, HP, and ViewSonic tablets look quite nice.... kudos to HP on the pricing compared to the ASUS and ViewSonic tablets.

    ~Alan
     
  7. Nov 11, 2010 #47 of 130
    Steve

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    Well except for the Asus, 5 of those 7 Windows tablets, including HP's, use Intel Atom processors, same as the latest netbooks, and one uses a Celeron (ugh).
     
  8. Nov 11, 2010 #48 of 130
    Steve

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    Yup. $599 MSRP with a 64mb SSD and 2 cameras is quite impressive pricing, IMHO.
     
  9. Nov 11, 2010 #49 of 130
    dennisj00

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    You info may be a little out of date. . . Here's the first paragraph of this article. . . http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=227900335

    "With iPad pilots or deployments taking place in 65% of the Fortune 100 and the iPhone now mainstream at more than 80% of the Fortune 500, Apple is obliterating the distinctions between consumer and professional devices and forcing CIOs to confront a simple question: are you willing to help embrace and drive this revolution in IT philosophy, or will you fight it?"

    I said shortly after the iPad was released that when internal applications were ported there would be a massive migration because of size, battery life, etc. I continue to use the word 'revolutionary'.
     
  10. Nov 11, 2010 #50 of 130
    hdtvfan0001

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    Info is not out of date....allowing them or having them become anything more than complimentary toys is not the same as using them in the mainstream production world. The term deployed and tolerated or allowed are interchangeable.

    Outside our own 20+ thousand employee Fortune 500 company, I know of at least 2 other F500 companies that forbid their use entirely. They are hardly a "revolution".

    iPad a solution without a problem. Its a device seeking a purpose in life, with few found so far. Ask 9 or of 10 iPad users what they use if for (like I have done since they came out in airports, on planes, and in various meetings)....and the majority consensus is nothing special or unique.

    They are still a novelty item, searching for a viable purpose. They do nothing that can't be done with other devices, and cost more per capability than other devices.

    At least with a WIN7 tablet, one might be able to justify them as more compact and mobile laptop substitutes...including having more horespower and common desktop application compatibility.
     
  11. Nov 11, 2010 #51 of 130
    dennisj00

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    So you know of 3 F500 companies in the 20%. That's not a very big sample.
     
  12. Nov 11, 2010 #52 of 130
    hdtvfan0001

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    It actually is, when you realize the size of the companies.

    For them to literally ban the units is a clear signal that its not the clear-cut "revolution" that piece portrays. There are also plenty of other companies I know "experimenting with them, not sure yet of their viability for business purposes.

    There is no doubt there are some companies embracing them. What drives that all is what can it do or NOT do, not the WOW factor some might see (at least at first).
     
  13. Nov 11, 2010 #53 of 130
    Steve

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    Yes, size is key. For support and training reasons, it's much more difficult to introduce or integrate a new product or work paradigm into 20,000 employee company than into a 5,000 employee company. That's why upsetting the status quo is a much more difficult decision when there's a huge workforce to be reckoned with.

    That would certainly explain why a very small % of 500 companies have decided to stand pat, while 65% and 80% of the smaller Fortune 500 and 100 companies are now using iPhones and iPads.
     
  14. Nov 11, 2010 #54 of 130
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    It's actually 0.6% of the Fortune 500 companies. I believe the F500 companies are defined by revenue, publicly traded.

    And then you have companies like HP that won't allow a competitors product . .
     
  15. Nov 11, 2010 #55 of 130
    Steve

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    Ya. I guess the point is that they're not NOT being adopted because they're "toys", as was previously stated. It's more likely due to a "switching cost" analysis, especially in the case of the iPhone vs. Blackberry, which used to be the device of choice among Fortune 500 companies.
     
  16. Nov 11, 2010 #56 of 130
    dennisj00

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    I can remember when companies thought IBM PCs were 'toys'.
     
  17. Nov 11, 2010 #57 of 130
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    I hope you posted this in the wrong thread!!
     
  18. Nov 11, 2010 #58 of 130
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    That first site had the price wrong, or HP reconsidered. According to thestreet.com, HP is now pricing the 64GB Slate at $799... $100 more than a comparably equipped iPad.

    If iPhone/iPod pricing history is a guide, the next-gen iPad will probably sell for the same price as the current one, and the current model will drop in price.
     
  19. Nov 14, 2010 #59 of 130
    Drucifer

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    Tablet - Choosing the Right One for You

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  20. Nov 14, 2010 #60 of 130
    Steve

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    Asus is coming out with 7" and 10" tablets, both for $499. The 7" has a "capacitive" screen and the 10" a "resistive" screen. More here.
     

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