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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by KC2LLW, May 5, 2009.
Costco has the HR-22's for $169. Just picked one up and activated tonight.
Is that a 5LNB dish? You need a 5LNB and if D* upgrades you, you usually get a free HR with the upgrade.
Lots of luck with that. Give it a month or so, you'll see what I mean. Two months I've had my 22, bought it from Costco too and wasted $169. Unusable for recording sports, goes right to the end of the recording if you press the slip button the wrong way (apparently touching the slip button is the wrong way) and has actually gone to the end of the recording when pressing play on a program in the Playlist.
Plenty of HR20-700s on eBay. I think they are the best HRs D* has produced. Don't buy into the idea that all the HRs perform equally. They don't. Just because they are all Hi Def DVRs, saying that they perform equally is like saying that every car will perform equally, just because they are all cars. Next best is the 21-700 or 21-200. Try too stay away from anything that ends in 100.
Mixed reviews on the 23-700. Might be an upgraded HR, might just be a 21-700 with a larger hard drive. From what I've read about the 23, it seems to be a 21-700 with a 500G hard drive.
We're both in NJ, I live in Piscataway. You're gonna need a 5LNB dish to get the NYC locals.
At one point in time I might have agreed with you. In fact, when trying to add another HD DVR, I tried very hard to avoid getting a -100. Bottom line is instead of getting one HD DVR that was something else I ended up with two additional HD DVRs that were both -100's (much too long a story to go into).
I now have an HR20-700, an HR21-200, two HR22-100's and an R22-200. All work fine. The -100's are just as reliable and work just as well as any of the other units. I have found absolutely nothing to complain about with regard to the -100's.
I have a HR20-100 that works great. I love it. I think the ATSC tuner could be better but for everything else I like it alot. No real complaints here.
I have a 3lnb 99 101 103 I have no LOS on 110 or 119 what does the HD locals come in on I live in Mahwah.
Wish that was the case with my 22. I'm about to call and see what can be done about this. Ridiculous paying for something that works for about a month and then starts acting up. Can't blame it on the NR, it was doing it before that. None of my other HRs do the things that the 22 does. Can't blame anything but the HR. Changed feeds, swapped locations, yada, yada, nothing helps.
Wouldn't mind it if it wasn't for sports. Have you ever pushed Play, when in the Playlist, on a highlighted program and had it go to the end of the recording? First time I've seen it happen, but it wrecked a ballgame on me. First thing I saw was the score. Bad enough what's happening with the Yankees, but that's adding insult to injury. :lol:
Steve, you need a 5LNB dish. D* should be happy to upgrade you to high def and will probably throw in an HR for nothing. Give them a call and ask them. Be polite, just tell them you want to upgrade to Hi Def.
I realize some of them work properly, I've never had one that did and that's why I've formed the opinion that I have and that's all that it is, an opinion, not a statement of fact.
Oh man I thought the 3lnb would work I really don't have a LOS to 119 or 110 without running the dish out another 70' from the house. now I don't know what to do. Maybe like you say just call and upgrade and see if the tech can setup a 5lnb.
Ya gotta remember, it's not a line of sight that is parallel to the ground. It looks up at a pretty good angle. You can't lose anything by calling and getting an upgrade. The installer will probably be able to find a place to put the dish. The guy across the street from me has two dishes (one's a dish that gets worldwide stations) and a huge tree in their backyard that looks as if it would block the signals, but he gets a perfect picture. If the installer can't do it, you won't be charged for anything. Go for it and don't forget to tell us what happens.
The entire HR line are slow poor excuses for receivers. But they are the only option for HD DVR on DirecTV.
My Take on reading through hundreds of posts and owning an HR20 and HR23 is that the Older units are better made and more reliable.
It would seem that after the HR20 series Directv tried cutting manufactoring costs and by the time they made HR22 they had cut them so much that the receiver was unstable. The HR23 seems to be a slight reversal, it more stable and from what I can see and also many others, it has the Best Picture quality of all the HR2x series. It's not as well constructed or as reliable as HR20's but it does have a slightly better picture.
There is nothing inherently "unstable" about most of the HR22-100 units, and certainly not mine. In fact, with rare exception, they do everything I ask them to do, so long as I am willing to wait an incredibly long, long time for them to do it. :lol:
I'll agree that the 20-700s are the best HRs. I've got reservations about the 20-100s. Never had one that worked. The three 21-700s I have work well and are as stable as the 20-700s. Now you say the PQ is superior on the 23-700. See a trend here? All 700s. I've seen a lot of negative posts about the 23s. Gotta get one and see. Gonna call the PP and get rid of this two month old 22-100. Perhaps I'll get a 23 in the exchange.
You really think the FIOS PQ is a lot better than D*'s. I was reading one of your posts and got that impression. Do you know how they handle multiple DVRs? Do the DVRs have dual tuners? Do you know the price per DVR?
The 22 I bought for two reasons: I got a great deal on a TV and I needed another HR and all I could find was the 22.
The other reason was curiosity. After all my ranting about the 100 series, I really never had a brand new one. Was I wrong, all this time? Costco kept selling pallets of them a month. Was I wrong? Nope. Unwatchable unless you like to sit thru commercials. If I try to slip or FF thru the commercials, it either goes where it's supposed to or goes to the end of the program. 50/50 chance. I don't use it. Two months old, give or take.
I gotta get one.
For all its faults (and there are certainly plenty of them), I really don't believe that the HR22-100 is unstable. Your functionality complaints seem to be somewhat isolated and unique to your unit. My suspicion is that you simply have a defective unit. Have you pushed D* and/or Costco for a replacement?
Once you activate an HR, Costco won't take it back. I'm trying to find the time and patience to call the PP. Then I'll get three replacements that won't work and then the Case Management Group will get involved and I'll probably end up with a new HR of some sort. Another week or two in D*Hell.
Not only are the issues unique to my unit, I have eight other HRs that work perfectly (well, you know). I know it's not the feeds to the HR. Had nothing to do with the NR. Was doing the slip thing after a couple weeks. Didn't seem to be able to handle baseball games with all the slips and rewinds. Just gives up and goes to the end of the recording. Kind of funny when you think about it. :lol:
I had 2 of the original HR20-700s. One was always fine, the other has had several issues and was recently replaced with a HR23-700. The DirecTV installer guy told me that he has seen all sorts of problems with the HR20-700s and thought that they should all be replaced. I have had had no issues with the HR20-100 or HR21Pro that I have. As always, YMMV.
Rich the HR23 does have a slightly better picture but it may not be that jump out at you difference that your expecting. It does have dual tuners like all HR2x, I have no idea how well it handles multiple DVR's if you meant from a Network standpoint. The price is the same $199 like all the others.
FIOS picture quality is definetly better, that one will jump out at you
My HR23 was working great until the recent x02F5 update, since then it has reset 3 times in 6 days. Before x02F5 update it ran for 3 weeks before doing any reboots. So I am undecided on how well the unit works, I can tell you that it is slower on the remote than the HR20-100 but it's nowhere as bad as the stories I hear about the HR22's