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Which satellite provider would you pick?

Discussion in 'Polls' started by Chris Blount, Apr 27, 2006.

Which satellite provider would you pick?

  1. DirecTV

    2 vote(s)
    0.4%
  2. Dish Network

    151 vote(s)
    30.7%
  3. Both

    339 vote(s)
    68.9%
  1. Opynion

    Opynion Godfather

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    I thought that the other poster said that D wasn't encrypted,
    then it's better to just record directly from the reciever to the DVD-R, the picture quality looks the same to me, I can only tell the diference when I record with a VCR :rolleyes:
    anyway I still think it's better to have one small dish from each company, instead of two from the same, because it's more likely I'll be losing some signal from a satellite if I get the 1000,
    it's better to have one dish to get the strongest signals from the satellite with HD and the other signal from the 119
    and the other dish only for the strongest signal of 110 :cool:
     
  2. Red Dwarf

    Red Dwarf Legend

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    I don't think the Dish 1000 is a problem in Texas as long as you aren't too far south. It's on the west coast that have issues with 129. I guess we're on the edge of the footprint. So I think a single dish from Dish would work for you!
     
  3. Mike D-CO5

    Mike D-CO5 Hall Of Fame

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    Past Victoria Texas down you can't use a dish 1000. I think it is only three dmas that can't see the 129 sat in Texas.
     
  4. Opynion

    Opynion Godfather

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    I also read that the Skew of the 1000 was not as good as the Skew of a 500, so maybe the Skew for HD programming of Directv is better than the 1000 of E; unless all that's needed for 119, 110 & 129 is a 500
    but if a 1000 is needed for 129
    then the best option is D for the HD channels :D
    it will be better when all channels go in HD
    then all the satellites will be in HD
    not only 129
    maybe by then all the HD better channels will move on the 119 and 110 satellites
    and all the local channels should be in a separate satellite, like in the 129 ;)
     
  5. FTP123

    FTP123 New Member

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    :)

    I have dish for over a year and I will say that dish has done a wonderful job in regards of programming plus in services. I used to have dtv and cable before i was very dissatisfied with the services. But i had a better change and i m very happy about it. So i will always recommend people to choose dish first then any other services.:)
     
  6. ApK

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    Because it's not what you'd get from D* if you chose today.
     
  7. Chris Blount

    Chris Blount Creator of DBSTalk Staff Member Administrator DBSTalk Gold Club

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    Valid point but that doesn't mean you can't get them.
     
  8. ApK

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    Hmm. True enough.
    Of course, you could get an SA Tivo and use it with Dish as well, so I guess the factor would then not be "Tivo" but "Which Tivo." Dish, and use a new SA Tivo with networking, or Direct, and get a used DTivo with dual tuners?
     
  9. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    If you demand an HD DVR, you'll get a TiVo-based unit. They will make every effort to discourage you from going that route (as they should).

    If you can find one, you can also obtain a TiVo unit through a retailer. They are getting truly scarce.

    Paying good money for a satellite receiver that doesn't do MPEG4 is not a good idea. I don't buy into the arguments that D* is going to put off conversion until the very distant future.
     
  10. PhilAce

    PhilAce AllStar

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    It's a tough choice, but I say DirecTV b/c of the NFL. If Dish had it, I would pick them.
     
  11. BrianB

    BrianB Mentor

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    Chris - you are going aganist your own premise of the poll here by using past experiences to vote. The question was if you had never had a small dish system, by looking at what both companies offer today which would you choose? If you had never had either system, looked at the programming packages of both companies, read the reviews of the Vip622 vs the Hd-Tivo, took into account that the HD-Tivo is not MPEG4, what would you choose?

    Personally, I have an installer coming over tomorrow to install the Vip622 and my HD-Tivo will be on ebay Sunday. I have heard all the horror stories similar to yours of older Dish receivers, but everything I hear and read about the latest is good. The HD-Tivo has plenty of it's own problems, including being outdated technology.
     
  12. georgecostanza

    georgecostanza Mentor

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    This poll is analogous to a poll on the NY Jets web site asking "who would you rather go to the superbowl, the JETS or the Patriots?" DBStalk should be renamed DISH lovers paradise.
     
  13. Chris Blount

    Chris Blount Creator of DBSTalk Staff Member Administrator DBSTalk Gold Club

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    That is why I said in an earlier post that it would be a tough choice. There are a few other things (besides the Tivo) that would have attracted me to DirecTV.
     
  14. Chris Blount

    Chris Blount Creator of DBSTalk Staff Member Administrator DBSTalk Gold Club

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    I don't think it's so much a "Dish lovers paradise". DISH is much more open with their customers so there is a lot more interaction here and on other forums regarding DISH issues. DirecTV tends to be more conservative. Lately the traffic in our DirecTV forums has picked up but its no where near the same traffic we have in our Dish forums. You have to admit, DISH is really good at keeping the lines of communication open with customers via the online forums, the Charlie Chats and the Tech Chats.
     
  15. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    Unless the TCF becomes NDSCF, I think this trend will continue.
     
  16. tonyp56

    tonyp56 Godfather

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    Signed up for Directv back in 97, stayed with them for seven years, and then switched to Dish, and I've in many ways regretted it ever since. Have to say, if I had to do it all over again, I'd sign up for Directv again.
     
  17. tigerhonaker

    tigerhonaker Cool Member

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    {Dish} and the reason is. Dish has the latest technology (IMHO). Dish has the now VIP622 DVR and also you only need 1-Dish to pick up all the programming. This includes the locals and their HD channels.

    Dish has alot of HD channels to offer. I have a very large Home Theatre with a 123" screen. So it is important to me that I get as many HD channels as possible from my provider. I think dish has like a total of 30-35 HD channels including the local HD channels.

    Anyway I am the Newbie on this Forum and also to Dish Network.

    This is a very strange Forum. I type information and then when I review the information it (Wipes-Out) most of it for No-Reason.

    I had alot more to say about this question on the two choices but the Site keeps on Wiping out what I type.

    I give up.
     
  18. tigerhonaker

    tigerhonaker Cool Member

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    Chris Blount
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    I would like to take this time to personally thank Chris for his Help/Assistance this evening on my request for information on the VIP622 DVR. He was on Chat and provided the Link to the Full Review on the 622. Some 44-pages of it.

    I am a Mod. on another Forum and try my best to offer the same kind of help and courtesy to New Visitors and New Members that Chris has shown me this evening. This is going to be a very busy Forum if Chris treats everyone the same way as he has me. :) Thanks Chris and I look forward to reading all the information that I think is here on this Forum.

    Great-JoB !!! :)
     
  19. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    For the past decade or so I've been interested in satellite TV - always prefering D* primarily because that was what I had the most information on (due to local retailers). I actually bought my C-Band dish in 1987 or 1988 (too long ago to remember - it was months before HBO and others went scrambled and satellite TV became a home subscription business instead of a buy a dish and get free cable business). That dish was never installed. Some day I may put it in a museum.

    Not having a place to install the dish helped delay the install, then competing scrambling systems came out as well as 2° mesh and Ku reception. It seemed cheaper to just leave it in the box and subscribe to cable. But then DirecTV and USSB started offering the mini-dishes and it became 'reasonable' to put up a dish. At the same time events in my life kept me away from an install. But I always seemed to think that eventually I'd sign up for DirecTV.

    Just over three years ago I moved into a house with a good southern view off the back (great for hiding dishes). The previous owner had a DishNetwork dish in the yard which he had apparently hit with a lawn mower (twisting the LNBs) and also cut the feed cable where it entered the house. But he left it and his old receiver with the house. With a little tinkering I managed to get it to work and could see the free channels then available to unsubscribed receivers. PQ was acceptable. The choice between cable and satellite became the choice between satellite and satellite.

    It was E*'s $24.95 base package (then AT50) that encouraged me to choose their system over D*. I ended up buying a Dish500 system at Walmart and self installing with credits that paid for the system over the first year. Still playing with that old dish I managed to pull in 61.5° (my first posts here were asking how to aim a D500 at 61.5°). Eventually I eBought a second 301 (which E* paid for by increasing my credits). I liked the 'no commitment" way that I could get in the door - If I cancelled I would have just lost future credits. I ended up subscribing to AT100 (because of channels I wanted that were not in AT50) but knew that I could downgrade if $10 per month meant more to me than those channels.

    Yes, I could have got D* - perhaps a dollar more or less, perhaps a channel more or less. They are both decent systems.

    Now I'm entrenched. I'm not good at selling stuff I own. (Did I mention I still have an uninstalled C-Band dish I bought nearly 20 years ago?) I could pull the receivers and switches, eBay them as used and go to D* but E* hasn't done anything bad enough to tick me off, and in general, I like the company.

    One other note about E* and openness. Yes, it's a big company with millions of subscribers and plenty of problems but that folksy feel is still there thanks to the Charlie Chat and Tech Forum. When Dan mentioned tonight that he gets his Tech Forum comments quoted back to him by customers I had to smile. I've done that about NBR myself.

    The openness that I feel has led to E* being talked about more than D* in any forum is that their system can be 'hacked'. Not the signal theft kind of hacking, but the ability to look under the hood and see the system tables and get a clue at what is going on in advance. A good portion of our talk is about stuff that isn't in the next press release - it's in the tables. Much of E*'s system is open ... spot beam coverage and channel locations ... where on D* it can't be discussed beyond orbital location and opinion (unless someone wants to go to jail).

    Sure I could just watch TV and be happy with either system, or even cable if I wanted to pay more for less content. With E* I feel I can be more involved in the process, and not just be customer number 12,554,447.

    YMMV
     
  20. max1

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    I had Dish for 6 years and loved the serivice. The remotes were better and stronger pic quality was great. They have a better music lineup with Sirius. Overall channel lineup was better. They always worked their current cust. D Does not offer incentives to upgrade. I went to D with the Qwest bundle with D but as it turns out not much of a savings. Was talked into it.Cable now is at least another year away they upgrading our town so that may be an option. Overall E was better for us probably will go back in another month or so. Max
     

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