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who says no 1080P broadcasts soon?

Discussion in 'XStreamHD (Closed Forum)' started by projectorguru, Nov 20, 2007.

  1. projectorguru

    projectorguru Godfather

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    http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/11874.cfm

    Just thought I'd share this finally, if this go through ok, XstreamHD will give some x-tream competition for sure in the near future............
     
  2. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    Here comes another VOOM.
     
  3. Carl Spock

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    Looks interesting but we'll see.

    It's a lot easier to launch a press release than a satellite delivery system.
     
  4. Inches

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    If this happens it will be short lived. Too much bandwidth.
     
  5. projectorguru

    projectorguru Godfather

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    lots of negatives and they aren't even out yet? Geez, just the thought makes me excited, cuz there will be more wanting to do this as well in the near future
     
  6. texasbrit

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    Interesting but it is a very long way from reality. This looks like a company wanting to make enough noise to persuade a couple of investors with deep pockets to sign up.
    Anyway, even if they can find enough money - and enough bandwidth - I am not sure that 1080p offers enough of an advantage over 1080i.
     
  7. projectorguru

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    I'm sure thats exactly what they want, someone with big pockets, and yes its a big difference when viewed on a 1080P projector, or big screen(50" and over), Blue ray you can really see the difference, but not so much on the 40 " tv's unless you sit 6 inches away from them
     
  8. Bill Johnson

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    If you've ever sat in front of your 57" HD RPTV watching a football game and said "man, I can't see any PQ difference period between this and my 19" analog set," then this has to sound promising to say the least!
     
  9. bobnielsen

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    I'd say you have either a lousy HD RPTV or a very good analog TV.
     
  10. cygnusloop

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    I would be more interested to see the bitrate they intend to transmit. Resolution and scan mode are only part of the equation, 1080p would be great, but not if it was sent at 15Mbps.

    The reason BluRay looks so good is that it is sent to your TV at something like 36Mbps. It is that kind of scorching bitrate that makes the difference, not just the resolution and progressive scan.
     
  11. Earl Bonovich

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    As noted a few times in those threads...

    It is all about the technology... if they have come up with a way to compress/distribute 1080p content feasibly both technically and financially...

    Then great for them.

    But until it is available and actually up and running.......
     
  12. Tower Guy

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    So, let's read in between the lines.

    Content into a media server. Implies not real time and probably movies.

    Small aperture dish. Implies modest bit rate.

    Movies are shot 24P. 24P can be transmitted and displayed as 1080P by deleting the extra 36 frames per second. MPEG4 would work fine. Bandwidth can be modest.

    Sounds like Moviebeam over satellite.
     
  13. Jim5506

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    Dish or Direct could do 1080p24 with current bandwidth, because they currently to 1080i30, no biggie.

    1080p60 is where the big bandwidth problems come in.
     
  14. ebaltz

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    The funny part about all this is there is the constant complaint on here of all the upconverted and pan and scan stuff now that is on "HD" channels. So we haven't even come to the point where we are getting decent and 24/7 content in actual HD and someone thinks they can up the anty.
     
  15. LarryFlowers

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    And therein lies the rub... it will be years before there is enough HD content in the pipe to handle what we have now.
     
  16. OneOfOne

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    all they need to do is get a la carte programming into law. then most of the garbage goes away. then you get more incentive to do more hd because there isnt so much bandwidth wasted on channels no one watches. the caveat is that even when everything was sd, there were still too many channels because there is just so much garbage being broadcast. the carriers own so many channels that no one watches just to get the piggy backed advertising dollars. still having ranted on all that, is there really a need right now for 1080p when so many channels are just 720p and dont look as good as 1080i on better displays? do we really need so many 'hd' formats?
     
  17. machavez00

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    Is there a set with a 1080p tuner in it?
     
  18. P Smith

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    Tuner doesn't care about the sh%$#@ ! That part what decompress video stream is what you need.
     
  19. HIPAR

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    Can someone explain why 1080p needs more bandwidth than 1080i. Both have 1080 lines of 1920 pixels. Both send 30 complete pictures per second so the same amount of data is sent in 1/30 of a second.

    --- CHAS
     
  20. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Who knows how those online (Tandberg/Harmonia,etc) H.264 encoders handle stream; 1080p required double input bandwidth, BTW.
     

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