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Whole Home/MRV Upgrade Install

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by silentpartner, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    measuring the unloaded voltage out of the PI is rather pointless.
    Check the amperage rating on this PI. Should be 1.5 amp
     
  2. DarkLogix

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    I was more looking towards the idea of checking that it can out put whats its supposed to

    but ya you're right it would be unloaded and thus not be a check of if its up to spec, you'd have to have 2 ends held such that the sheild would be in contact and then use to meter over the 2 center conductors
     
  3. veryoldschool

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    aka a split open coax
     
  4. Beerstalker

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    Have you tried reauthorizing the receivers?

    Also what channels are you missing? Maybe he switched you from a 5lnb head to a 3lnb head and you are noticing channels that come off 119?

    Just a couple of things I noticed nobody else asked yet.
     
  5. Diana C

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    Another stupid question...have all the receivers been rebooted? I'd also try rerunning satellite setup.
     
  6. carl6

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    I don't think I've seen this mentioned yet - you can only feed 4 DVRs off each/either output of the SWM16 - so if all 5 were connected to the same output you would see the problems you have.
     
  7. veryoldschool

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    I didn't think I missed that:
     
  8. silentpartner

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    Thanks again for all of the support.
    I haven’t really messed with the PI since it was swapped out initially and made no difference. Unless there were 2 bad PIs, I think I’m safe.
    I have reset all IRDs MANY times. I haven’t tried to reauthorize them though.
    As for the channels I'm missing, this isn't a comprehensive list; just enough to help me verify what was consistently missing from all IRDs (minus the IRD I previously mentioned that now receives all channels).
    101, 208, 212, 214-216, 231, 237,239, 242, 244, 252, 254, 266, 269, 278, 290, 299, 307, 331, 334-335, 355, 500, 502-505, 511, 515, 516, 521, 527-530, 535, 546-548, 550, 551, 567, 604, 607, 613, 619, 620, 629 etc...
    Since each suspect IRD is missing the exact same channels, isn’t it safe to say this is voltage related?
    I think I’ll try to reauthorize the IRDs online with DTV.
     
  9. silentpartner

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    I just realized that I didn't go much past the 600’s when I was checking bad channels...it saddens to now realize that my Sunday Ticket is affected. Most of the 700's are also searching for satellite.
    My priority has shifted to ensuring my prime IRD is receiving those channels.
     
  10. veryoldschool

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    Let's look at this from a different view:
    Look at all the receiver's setup screens for the SAT/transponder levels.
    If you see missing/different numbers, then there is a SWiM problem.
    If they all look the same, then you don't have a SWiM problem, but have a receiver authorization problem.
     
  11. silentpartner

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    Here are my Sat #s

    Satellite: 101º Tuner 1
    1-8 95 95 94 99 95 98 94 98
    9-16 94 96 95 98 96 98 95 98
    17-24 95 0 95 100 96 98 96 99
    25-32 90 0 89 0 93 96 89 96

    Satellite: 101º Tuner 2
    1-8 94 95 98 99 95 98 94 98
    9-16 95 96 95 98 96 98 95 98
    17-24 95 0 95 100 96 99 95 99
    25-32 96 0 95 0 97 98 95 99


    Satellite: 99º(c) Tuner 1
    [National HD channels]
    1-8 90 94 86 85 86 89 86 85
    9-16 88 89 84 83 89 90 NA NA

    Satellite: 99º(c) Tuner 2
    [National HD channels]
    1-8 90 93 86 86 86 89 86 85
    9-16 86 89 84 83 89 89 NA NA


    Satellite: 99º(s) Tuner 1
    [Local HD channels for some cities]
    1-8 97 0 95 0 96 0 NA NA
    9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA 95 0
    17-24 100 99 0 0 39 42 97 99

    Satellite: 99º(s) Tuner 2
    [Local HD channels for some cities]
    1-8 97 0 96 0 95 0 NA NA
    9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA 99 0
    17-24 99 100 0 0 34 41 97 98


    Satellite: 103º(s) Tuner 1
    [Local HD channels for some cities]
    1-8 0 0 0 0 0 0 NA NA
    9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA 0 0
    17-24 0 100 0 14 0 0 0 97

    Satellite: 103º(s) Tuner 2
    [Local HD channels for some cities]
    1-8 0 0 0 0 0 0 NA NA
    9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA 0 0
    17-24 0 100 0 15 0 0 0 97


    Satellite: 103º(ca) Tuner 1
    [National HD channels]
    1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
    9-16 0 86 0 88 0 84 0 88
    17-24 0 82 0 88 0 82 0 89

    Satellite: 103º(ca) Tuner 2
    [National HD channels]
    1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
    9-16 0 87 0 89 0 83 0 88
    17-24 0 84 0 86 0 83 0 89


    Satellite: 103º(cb) Tuner 1
    [National HD channels]
    1-8 0 93 0 85 0 90 0 86
    9-16 0 89 0 87 0 89 NA NA
    17-24 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

    Satellite: 103º(cb) Tuner 2
    [National HD channels]
    1-8 0 94 0 86 0 91 0 86
    9-16 0 89 0 87 0 91 NA NA
    17-24 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA


    SWM Tuner 1
    1-8 100 0 95 0 0 0 96 99
    9-16 99 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

    SWM Tuner 2
    1-8 100 0 94 0 0 0 96 99
    9-16 99 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
     
  12. silentpartner

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    Performed a reauthorization on all affected IRDs...still have issues, but I now notice Sunday Ticket channels are working. Not sure if it was the reauth or not.

    I have to head out for a while. I'll be back soon.
     
  13. veryoldschool

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    Bingo!
    The cable and/or input to the SWiM-16 13 volt 22 kHz is the problem.
    Maybe even the LNB.

    Now what I'd try is to swap the 18 volt & 13 volt 22 kHz inputs and see if the zeros change from odd TPs to even TPs.
    If they do, then the cable or LNB is bad.
    If they don't, then the SWiM-16 is bad.
     
  14. silentpartner

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    SWEET! When I get home I'll try the swap.
    The LNB has been swapped and the first SWM16 was bad, so hopefully this is a bad connector. Thx VOS...I'll report soon.
     
  15. veryoldschool

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    "Could be" as simple as a loose connector.
     
  16. silentpartner

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    OK…it seems even simpler than that...

    After swapping the 13v & 18v 22Hz connections at the SWiM-16, the channels came back and the zeros went away from the 103 signal test. I didn't realize the lines coming from the dish made a difference at the SWiM-16. Could it be that the tech had these connections in the wrong position the whole time, thus replacing a good SWiM-16? (The original SWiM-16 was replaced because of an even voltage problem).

    It still puzzles me as to how he felt all signal tests were good from the dish, especially since he was aware of the issue with the 103 satellite zeros.
    Oh well, I'm just glad it is working. Special thanks to VOS and everyone else for helping me through this.
     
  17. veryoldschool

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    The LNB also has a switch so positions have nothing to do with it.
    Loose connectors, or maybe something going wrong at a ground block would be more likely.

    If the "tech" knew about the zeros, then he isn't "a tech", and barely an "installer". :nono:
     
  18. Drucifer

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    NY Hudson...
    Take a pic of your SWiM-16 and post it here.
     
  19. silentpartner

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    Here are a couple of pics of the SWM16. The tech did replace the grounding block.


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  20. veryoldschool

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    Yep, that's a SWiM-16 :lol:
     

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