A.) You brought up the Twins, no one else hacked into your post and did it for you. B.) You're right, I dont pay "extra" for my sports channels. However, the part that you don't seem to grasp is if they weren't available and all they had were the games of the teams that play on them I wouldn't be whining about it. I'd go to another provider if it were that much of a life & death issue to me like you make this out to be. C.) Repeatedly, I have said I AM NOT A RAYS FAN! In fact, let's go a step further...the following are the teams in Florida: Heat, Magic, Rays, Marlins, Lightning, Panthers, Jaguars, Bucs, and Dolphins. Of those teams, guess how many of them I like and get to see WITHOUT paying extra: Magic & Marlins (they are my 2nd favorite team behind the Braves). I have to pay for NFL ST to see the Jaguars every week because they aren't shown a lot here, I have to pay for MLB EI to see the Braves, NBA LP to see the Hawks, and NHL CI to see **gasp** the FLORIDA PANTHERS! That's right, we don't get them even though they are in our state. And on top of that, I DO get FSN Florida or whatever channel they come on without paying for sports pack and they black it out. Therefore, I order a sports package to see them. I don't cry about it on a message board about how I live here and shouldn't have to pay for it. Then when people explain it to you over and over again with the facts you turn it around on us claiming it's because we have whatever it is you seem to think makes our lives so much better with D* that we don't care about what you don't have. The only people you seem to like are those who sympathize with your position. I have no idea about FSN Wisconsin. You know D* doesn't offer it or whatever the case is with that. If a local provider does, go with them. D.) No one said you HAD to sub to a DVR service. But again, someone offers a solution and you don't like it because you'd rather make yourself into some poor victim being mistreated by Directv and us. Again, if you really want this channel THAT BAD, then go with a provider who has it. E.) As much as you don't like this, access to FSN Wisconsin, FSN Florida, Sunsports, Twins, NFL Sunday Ticket, GSN, CBS, etc is not a right. Directv makes business decisions based on whatever criteria they use. It's a criteria which seems to be working for them since they make a whole lot of money. They will add something when they get the clearance and capacity to do so if they feel it is worth doing. However, if you feel it is a right you can always contact your local congressman. There's a lot of things that pass as rights these days that aren't so perhaps you can get this one through as well.