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Why didn't they put a 1TB+ drive in the HR24?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by mogulman, May 28, 2010.

  1. May 28, 2010 #21 of 122
    Mike Bertelson

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    Well, then you really can't put it out there as if you're stating a fact (in your initial post). :D

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  2. May 28, 2010 #22 of 122
    Sixto

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    It's looks like most, if not all, of the actual reasons have now been stated.

    1. Most of the user population are fine with 100 hours of HD, thus the 500GB to 1TB cost delta becomes savings, which probably equates to tens of millions of dollars of savings.

    2. The supply chain stays simple. One mainstream DVR model to design, build, stock/inventory, deploy, maintain, service/swap.

    A Pro model would be nice, but analysis may have shown that advanced users just do e-SATA or will do MRV, without much complaint.
     
  3. May 28, 2010 #23 of 122
    jodyguercio

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    I don't remember reading that anywhere, do you have a link?
     
  4. May 28, 2010 #24 of 122
    harsh

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    It comes down to what the competition has and if you look at the current website bragging about the HR22 and up having the "two times more DVR storage than cable", you'll understand why they don't feel the need to go larger at this time.

    You have to remember that DIRECTV is very motivated to NOT differentiate between receivers. The HR24's defining difference is built-in DECA. Those in the know know better but not talking about other advantages (like not promoting the HR23's wide band tuners) avoids people clamoring for particular models (especially as replacements).
     
  5. May 28, 2010 #25 of 122
    David MacLeod

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    maybe over a long run they found twin platter 500gb to have better longevity and thermals then 3 platter or high density 1tb drive.
     
  6. May 28, 2010 #26 of 122
    Tom Robertson

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    Car manufacturers are able to markup the options a bunch, each sale is individually made with a salesman, etc. And even then you have two choices--take what is on the "lot" (which is bigger with dealer trades) or wait months for the car with the options you want to be made.

    The whole car maker model is completely different than the mass production of consumer electronics model. Every penny (literally) counts.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  7. May 28, 2010 #27 of 122
    Sixto

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    I believe the HR24 is one-platter 500GB. ST3500312CS.

    It's the thin Pipeline drive.
     
  8. May 28, 2010 #28 of 122
    Scott Kocourek

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    Can't you already go to a place like Solid Signal and lease upgraded units from them? If you don't want an external drive and you don't own your unit to do a drive upgrade it seems there is still an avenue to get what you want.
     
  9. May 28, 2010 #29 of 122
    bobnielsen

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    I don't think SolidSignal has upgraded units, but Weaknees has HR24s with up to 2 TB drives (at a price, of course).
     
  10. May 28, 2010 #30 of 122
    Doug Brott

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    Didn't you already do that ;) .. seems like an option. :p
     
  11. May 28, 2010 #31 of 122
    poppo

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    So does that $3 monthly MRV fee.
     
  12. May 28, 2010 #32 of 122
    Sixto

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    Yep, with all 7 receivers sharing content in this house, a great option indeed!

    Family just loves it.
     
  13. May 28, 2010 #33 of 122
    Scott Kocourek

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    Yup, I think you are right. I had right idea wrong place.
     
  14. May 28, 2010 #34 of 122
    Doug Brott

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    This sounds right although I'm unsure on specifics .. I think the theory is that single platter drives make less noise.
     
  15. May 28, 2010 #35 of 122
    billsharpe

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    I'm satisfied with the 300 gb capacity of my HR20-700. It's usually well under 50% full but will occasionally go higher when there's a free premium movie channel weekend.

    That said, one reason I'm not planning to switch to FiOS anytime soon is the small size of their DVR's hard disk. Another reason is that despite their come-on offers I really wouldn't save any money by switching.
     
  16. May 28, 2010 #36 of 122
    nickff

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    Don't forget 500GB is still a lot larger than cable offers. ComCrap still issues DVRS with 1##GB drives.
     
  17. May 28, 2010 #37 of 122
    azarby

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    Looks who's making moiney, DTV or the auto manufacturers.:D
     
  18. May 28, 2010 #38 of 122
    Tom Robertson

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    :D

    By the way, DIRECTV does allow the external option. Yes, it would be nice if completely supported, yet it can be done now. If there were larger hard drives inside, the larger the unused space by putting an external drive on... :)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  19. May 28, 2010 #39 of 122
    azarby

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    For $700 the OP can go to Weaknees and get an HR24 with a 2TB drive. 90 day warranty but then he is on his own.
     
  20. May 28, 2010 #40 of 122
    rsblaski

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    My thinking goes in the other direction...
    Why not make a dvr with NO internal hard drive for those who would like to use a large esata drive? D* and customer could save some money and the customer wouldn't be wasting the internal hard drive.
    This would really be nice if D* would ever allow esatas to be linked to a customer account as opposed to the dvr.
     

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