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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by dkerr64, Oct 10, 2011.
not jumping for joy?right
Add remote response issues with the HRs and you've got a pretty good description of D*'s complaints.
E*'s complaints are as you say, but it should be noted that the hardware issues are sporadic and in general not something consistent which makes fixing things with them a bit erratic too. In general, if a problem with hardware comes along with E*, they get it fixed fairly soon. Some exceptions of course.
buggy hardware thats only couple months old so no surprise there
Ignoring the 922?
Since the 922 was a pretty limited edition box, you don't have to ignore it, but most do. It was as close to a one-off box as E* ever came up with. The bad was that it never came up to the potential it should have had, the good is that E* learned a lot with it, incorporating many of the things the 922 had in a box that does work fine overall, the Hopper.
Since you mentioned the 922, brings up a point, Dish has a habit of announcing some new hardware feature that will be coming, customer pays for the box and then Dish changes their mind and doesn't implement the feature, or does it many months or not years later then they said they would.
How many times has that happened? I mean that they actually shipped a box with some promised functionality that never happens. I don't remember many, and certainly not more than 1 for many years now.
So I find it hard to call it a 'habit'...
Here is a thought..Dish just released their new thing-a-magig that skips annoying commercials.. Does that mean it skips even Dishes own annoying commercials ??
Just a thought :lol:
The ones that come to mind to me are:
- OpenTV on the 6000. The STB even had the logo on the back of the hardware but they never implemented that software.
- Name based recording on the 501/508/510, it took a couple years from when they said they'd have it before they implemented it.
- D-VHS copying of HD programming from the 921 to JVC D-VHS VCR's. They even had a FireWire port (Dish called it DishWire) but never implemented it.
- of course the recent SlingCatcher that was to work with the 922, never came out.
- wasn't there supposed to be a USB keyboard demo'ed for use on the HD DVR's?
Those are the examples I recall, but to me that shows a bad track record of delivering on what they tell customers will be coming.
From what I've seen the threads get locked on the D* side and they work their way off the first page pretty quickly.
"We already have xxx threads on how slow the UI is. So let's not start another one!" :lol:
Technically no, because the networks won't even sell Dish ad space anymore and have already sued them (LINK). :lol:
While I love the hopper and love the auto commercial skip feature, I think Dish is really biting the hand that feeds them. Without ad revenue, everybody will have to pay more for content in the long run. Now that cost is hidden in the cost of the products/services in the ads.
Well, to be honest, since Dish is required to pay retrans fees, I dont think the networks have a leg to stand on in court, if the DVR is simply skipping the commercials, and leaving them in tact on the drive. Now a network that DOESNT charge retrans fees might stand a better chance of winning. Surly the networks thought of that before double dipping
Hmmmm. It's more often a case of trolling, including those fond of big game fish.
Most of that is pretty old. The only current thing is the 922 SlingCatcher, all the rest is quite old.
As to the keyboard, I don't remember a USB keyboard on the HDDVRS, but I think there was one demo'ed for the 922. And now there is a remote 'concept' with a keyboard on it.
But let's just assume that all you arguments are correct and it indicates a bad track record of delivering what they say. How is that more/less of an issue than every HR ever made that is :
A. Slow as molasses, with the exception of the HR24. Took a couple sw 'updates' to slow them down. About 6 years worth of slow here.
B. Remote response issues nearly as old.
C. Has an HDGUI that is basically the old one in a new wrapper, nothing real great about it at all. And until the last update, slower when it was advertised as faster, and remote response was the pits. Now with the latest update we have bad video/audio glitches.
From purely an operational standpoint between Dish and Direct, Dish wins hands down for hardware/software, imo.
Speed issues are not universal sorry. With that said there are improvements still to be made for sure.
Bottom line is both companies have done good and bad things with equipment at some point but saying that one has always done better is wrong on both sides.
There seem to be a few dozen folks who have a very bolshy DVR, and one or two guys who have bad DVRs across the board. A few claim to never have problems of any sort. I experienced some real slowdowns that were temporary, but annoying at the time.
The new GUI is faster and easier to read than its predecessor.
Good thing I didn't say one always has done better, I did say 'in general' though and I'll stand behind that.
And while not everyone has speed issues with HRs, it is enough of a problem to be mentioned much more often than any other, and not just by those that don't like D*. But here's the catch in all this. I was with D*, had an HR21, it sucked, I left D* solely over that DVR and the fact that D* had nothing that was any better to offer at the time.
Now I'm back to D*. Got the latest and greatest HR24-500, or at least it was when I got it. It was great when I got it, had that old SDGUI that didn't look all that good, but it was fast with no issues whatsoever. Liked it. Then the HDGUI came out, back to slow and poor remote response.
So how the hell do I go away for 2 years and see the same problems I left for re-occur? And yet, others keep telling me the issues aren't universal.
Yes, some of those examples are old, most were from when I had Dish, don't keep track of all of what they're doing or not doing now. But it does show that Dish does have a history of not delivering on features they say they'll come out with. This is different then what you're responding with now which are bugs/issues with released hardware.
directv is going back in time :lol::lol: