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Why in 2012 is the guide still broken?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by saleen351, Jun 28, 2012.

  1. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    Ah, so only go to that program that is finished by hitting the left arrow? Huh.
     
  2. Alan Gordon

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    I'm getting exasperated...

    First of all... I too do not feel that the guide is broken. I'm simply stating that I too find the OP's annoyance to be annoying.

    Not necessarily... it could still be left in, but have it where pressing that channel in the guide tunes to the channel regardless.

    The issue there is that some people might not be smart enough to figure out the program they clicked on isn't on anymore. :rolleyes:

    Read what I posted above...

    Also... this annoyance is more common on smaller TVs, SDTVs, and of course, older, slower DVRs.

    Actually, in the case of inkahaut's shot, it's extremely obvious that "Man In The Moon" is still listed in the guide and it's extremely obvious, so one can easily move over to "Big Stan." My annoyances are when it's not obvious there's something there.

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  3. evan_s

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    That would make sense. I'd say the majority of the time someone is going to be more interested in what has already started playing on that channel and the "normal" behavior of switching to that channel when you select a show on the channel than seeing information for a show that has already ended and bringing up the more info for that show to try to find other showings. Sure if you want to manually go left to do that then allow it but default to the show that is currently live on the channel as that is much more relevant.
     
  4. evan_s

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    I agree that it isn't as annoying when it's 10 or 15 minutes like in Inkahaut's example but the minute or 2 example that is more annoying also doesn't make as good an example for to show what is happening. Ironically, it doesn't make a good example for the exact same reason that it is more annoying. It isn't as obvious that you've got something old selected.
     
  5. inkahauts

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    If you automatically tune to a channel if you select a show that's over, then select won't take you to the more info screen of the show... And as you pointed out people may also not realize they are tuning to a different show.

    I actually think its best leaving it as is, because that is the only way that allows everything to work in the exact same consistent manner.

    Maybe if they would at least have the program name go dim if it's no longer on.
     
  6. RunnerFL

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    It's not difficult to figure out it's not on anymore. There's a white dot at the top of the guide that shows you where in time you are. There's no reason to completely redesign something because a few people can't grasp it.

    Using the pic provided you can see this white dot above and to the right of the HD logo for "Gloria". Anything to the left of that dot is no longer airing and no one should expect to be able to tune to it. Since the guide is setup for only 30 minute "chunks" it's impossible to have "Man on the Moon" go off the guide because it was still airing past 5 and the guide shows from 5 to 6:30.
     
  7. boukengreen

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    i never knew what that dot was for thats nice to know lol
     
  8. Tom Robertson

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    From time to time I have wanted the information from a show that is over to find out when the next showing might be. The key is to always be aware of what is highlighted when you hit the select button. Sure, I make mistakes from time to time--and blame myself. :)

    Cheers,
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  9. spartanstew

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    How odd.

    I've never even noticed that dot before.
     
  10. wahooq

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    I never noticed any of this before
     
  11. dpeters11

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    Me neither.
     
  12. Alan Gordon

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    Very good point!

    I agree... I NEVER championed the idea of changing it... I simply agreed with the OP that it can be annoying. Nothing more...

    Read the above... ;)

    Unlike many here apparently :)lol:), I'm very well aware of the white dash... and in the pic provided, it's 100% obvious that MotM is over with... I was commenting about programs in which it's not obvious that the program is over.

    That's all... :grin:

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  13. inkahauts

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    Im not sure I have ever seen a directv, TiVo, replaytv, or ultimatetv DVR that didn't have that kind of white dot to show you where you are in the hour for the guide.

    I can't recall if it's in cable DVRs though.

    But it is always so small, it's supper easy to miss. I've always wondered if there was a better way to do it. Maybe have the entire guide slowly sliding to the left, and the time on the far left be what the actual time is. I think I have seen that before but I can't remember where. Maybe the old tv guide scrolling channels.
     
  14. fleckrj

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    Back before TBS became a separate entity from WTBS (Channel 17 Atlanta - The Superstation), all of the programing on WTBS started at :05 or :35.
     
  15. saleen351

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    At 12pm the guide changes over, so you now are only seeing 12pm and on..

    At 12:01pm South Park starts

    The time is now 12:55pm

    Flipping thru the guide you see South Park and want to catch the end.

    You scroll to it and hit select to watch it..

    But what you can't tell is you just clicked on the show prior to South Park even though it has been over for 24 minutes. The guide has this tiny sliver that you really can't see or notice until you click on it. The pic in this thread is the same example but with such a huge time gap it's easy to see and avoid.

    The world is a simple place, at 12:01 South Park should be selected by default NOT the prior program.. More and more channels are doing this on purpose. Again I had 3 in a row in my guide the other night.

    How anyone can say the guide works the way it should is nuts. Common sense tells me I do not want to watch a show that is up to 28 minutes over. :nono2:
     
  16. RunnerFL

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    Wow, really? The dot is pretty obvious. :)
     
  17. RunnerFL

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    I'm blown away at the number of responses from people I would think were "power users" that either didn't know what the dot was or never noticed it. It's been in the guide in one form or another on every DVR I've owned going back to the TiVo days.

    As far as it being obvious or not that a show is over, it's always obvious based on the white dot.
     
  18. RunnerFL

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    Then press "right" on your remote, problem solved.

    The guide is working as designed. It only shows 30 minute blocks and only shifts when a 30 minute block is over. You use the white dot/slash to see where you are in time so you can tell a show is over.
     
  19. Alan Gordon

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    Ditto! :eek2:

    No, it's not... a lot of the time, yes, but not always...

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  20. RunnerFL

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    A white dot/dash telling you exactly where you are in live time isn't obvious enough? :lol:

    ok, I'm done this has just gotten silly.
     

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