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Why Is SSN required ?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by dishcrazie, Mar 23, 2005.

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  1. splish

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    As I recall, my SS card, issued in the early 60s, clearly states something like 'may not be used for purposes of identification.'
     
  2. KingLoop

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    I think that goes to your SS Card not being a positive piece of ID, but I may be wrong there... E* doesn't use it as an identifier per se, (while it helps them in that endeavor) it is used for a CREDIT CHECK.
     
  3. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I think mine says that too... and I was born in 1970, so mine was obtained sometime in the 1970s...

    Yet, oddly enough when I recently renewed my driver's license... I was required to furnish my original-beat-up-old social security card as a form of identification. Even stranger when you consider that with its age, it would be one of the easiest kind of documents to falsify... and of course it isn't a picture-ID.
     
  4. SAEMike

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    About 12 years ago I worked at a video store where we required a SSN to sign up for a membership. We often encountered some people who were adamant that we were not "permitted" to require or even ask for a SSN. We always informed them that we could very well ask for nearly anything we wanted to ask for, and that the customer could very well refuse and take his business elsewhere.

    A private company has every right to require a SSN, Mother's maiden name, DNA swap, or anything else they feel important, the "check and balance" for that is that you can very well tell them to climb a tree, and find service somewhere else.

    The SSN is very useful when sending people to collection agencies or reporting poor payment practices by the customer to the various credit bureaus, and for purposes of identification when names, cities, and even date of births are similar. Giving someone your SSN could actually protect you from being confused with a delinquent customer with the same name.

    The satellite provider could be giving you credit in many different ways. Many customers lease equipment which is worth hundreds of dollars, not receiving that equipment back could be a sizable financial loss to the provider. While it is true that they charge double your first month's service charge as a buffer for a month when you may not pay, that does not take into account additions you may have made to your account since your first month of service, or if you signed a contract committing you to a year or more, it doesn't take into account the money you may owe on the contract after failing to pay your bill.

    There are many legitimate reasons for the satellite or cable provider to want and require your SSN and to do a credit check before they provide you with service.
     
  5. stonecold

    stonecold Banned User

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    OK here are the things

    A. you could charge up 300 dollars of PPV and leave dish stranded with the cost.
    b. if you are leasing recievers then they are extended credit in the form of the recievers.
    c. Comcast, Timewarner , Verizon (landline), require ssn why should dish be any different
     
  6. slenz

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    if i'm not mistaken.ssn was not created for personal id for companies,or cops, or anyone else,other than the irs and your employer.and you could very well be sued if somebody wanted to take you to court for refusing service for that reason alone.
     
  7. KingLoop

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    I don't think that is true. It's not like having a particular service is a right. It's not your right to be able to be financed by a bank or a car lot. In the same respect it's not your right to expect a company to let you use their service.
     
  8. the_bear

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    Yes, slenz is correct for most states. This is why Dish does not “require” (as pointed out by many customers on this thread) a SS.
     
  9. larrystotler

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    E* cannot require it. But they CAN charge you more for not providing it. It's just like when someone asks you for your SSN card or a Credit Card as a form of ID. These are NOT IDs. An SSN is only used in conjuction with a stat issued DL.
     
  10. SAEMike

    SAEMike Banned User

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    E* CAN require it. Your SSN and Social Security Card CAN be used and even required as ID.

     
  11. jeslevine

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    one is for your credit score

    the second is identity theif

    I think I am only kidding about the second. I don't like it either, but thats the way it is
     
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