1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Will DirecTV sell me another ICK?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by grecorj, Aug 22, 2010.

  1. grecorj

    grecorj Legend

    134
    0
    Jan 20, 2008
    Can't wait to get the DECA + PI now.

    System will be as follows once I get it:

    SWM dish ---> 1x8 Zimwell splitter in basement w/SWM PI
    ...Coax 1 --> Bedroom (HR24)
    ...Coax 2 --> Office --> 1x2 splitter (H24 + Broadband DECA connected to DSL router)
    ...Coax 3 --> Family room (HR24)
    ...Coax 4 --> Family room (DECA w/PI --> 5 port Netgear switch; Port 1-->Wii; Port 2-->Sony Blu-Ray player
    ...Coax 5 --> SWM PI
    ...Coax 6-8 ... terminated at splitter

    May also add Apple Airport Express to the switch in the family room to extend the wireless network in the house.

    I'm only using 5 of 8 tuners right now, so later I can run lines to two rooms for 1 DVR + 1 non-dvr in the future. That's the plan once the new HD DTiVo is available (*fingers crossed*).
     
  2. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    27,002
    523
    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    Gotta figure that Stuart Sweet is getting his fourth quarter TiVo thread ready about now. :)

    Beginning to wonder if we'll ever see the thing.

    Rich
     
  3. BudShark

    BudShark New Member

    3,192
    3
    Aug 11, 2003
    Yeah... well... :sure:

    I wouldn't do it... I'd venture a guess one day someone is going to not be too happy with a general purpose MOCA network and HD content bouncing around it while someone is trying to download a movie while the kid is playing Xbox... :D

    It sounds like a good proposition for the OP though. It sounds like he knows what he's getting into and isn't really building a network on DECA - just providing access for his blu-ray and Wii that won't generally be used at the same time as MRV... he'll be fine. :)
     
  4. Yog-Sothoth

    Yog-Sothoth Legend

    103
    0
    Apr 8, 2006
    To the OP, I have a DECA connected directly to a Slingbox, and the Slingbox is connected to an H24-700 receiver. I often stream recorded shows, meaning they obviously reside on my DVRs and not the H24, with the Slingbox. In effect, I have simultaneous MRV and Slingbox traffic passing through DECA at the same time, with no performance hit. Also, as I compose this post, my laptop is connected to a wireless access point that is connected to my network using... wait for it... DECA.
     
  5. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    42,683
    348
    Dec 9, 2006
    The DECA cloud [on the coax] has a bit-rate of 200-250 Mb/s normally.
    The DECA ethernet input is 100 Mb/s.
    MRV streaming without trickplay can be around 14 Mb/s or less.
     
  6. Sim-X

    Sim-X Godfather

    381
    0
    Sep 23, 2009
    I don't see why it wouldn't work - not to mention worse case if you do have any issues you can just remove the switch. It's not gonna hurt to try, there should be plenty of bandwidth to go around.
     
  7. grecorj

    grecorj Legend

    134
    0
    Jan 20, 2008
    Good to hear, thanks!

    Agreed...easy enough to remove it. And isn't going to cost me any $, which is nice.

    Of course, I just noticed on my DTV email order confirm it just says "1 receiver DECA". The CSR assured me he included a PI (he understood I was hooking up another PC to the DECA and needed a powered DECA), but who knows. Worst case I call them up again and get the PI shipped separately.
     
  8. grecorj

    grecorj Legend

    134
    0
    Jan 20, 2008
    DECA & PI installed, connected to 5 port network switch; Blu Ray player plugged in and connecting to internet just great -- watched a bunch of HD trailers via Flixster last night!

    Will have to test streaming something like Netflix via the Blu Ray player while streaming a show from HR-24 to H-24.
     
  9. The Merg

    The Merg 1*

    10,289
    35
    Jun 24, 2007
    Northern VA
    That's going to be your big test to see how the DECA cloud holds up.

    - Merg
     
  10. grecorj

    grecorj Legend

    134
    0
    Jan 20, 2008
    Last night I tested my setup a little (see previous posts for details of what I did).

    I was using my Sony Blu Ray player to stream Netflix while at the same time watching an HD show that was streaming from our bedroom (remote) HR24 to the family rooom HR24 (where the Blu Ray is).

    I streamed the beginning of Notting Hill (HD) on Netflix first while streaming a Food Network show (in HD) from the remote HR24. Both played flawlessly. Then I switched Netflix titles to a SD movie (Lonesome Dove, Episode 1). Watched about 15 minutes of the Netflix title, all the while swithing back to the DVR streaming the Food Network show and using Trick Play. Perfect.
     
  11. HoTat2

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    7,264
    179
    Nov 16, 2005
    Los...
    May we gather from your numbers here VOS which I boldfaced that this nominal 14 Mb/s is for streaming MPEG-4 HD programs and may thereby extrapolate that MPEG-2 OTA HD recordings are roughly 28-30 Mb/s? :)

    And what might be your view be of MPEG-2 SD rates?

    I also wonder, just for the record anyhow, what might be typical for the rare cases of streaming MPEG-4 SD recordings?

    Boy ... I know what a PITA I can be with some of these technical inquiries :D
     
  12. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    42,683
    348
    Dec 9, 2006
    It's been a while, but SD was closer to 3 Mb/s, HD MPEG-2 depended somewhat on the channels [as some were more compressed] and OTA will never be over 19.2 Mb/s. [without trickplay]
    There is no SD MPEG-4 yet.
     
  13. HoTat2

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    7,264
    179
    Nov 16, 2005
    Los...
    Ahhh ... got brain lock I guess and should have realized OTA recordings obviously can't be over 19.39 Mb/s :sure:

    Do you mean you are not aware of the data rates available on streaming SD MPEG-4 programs? As there are certainly a few SD MPEG-4 (Ka-Band) channels, National and LiL, from DirecTV.
     
  14. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    42,683
    348
    Dec 9, 2006
    :confused: Aren't these merely the HD locals "clipped" to SD output?
    Since DirecTV simply reads the file on the drive, these would be HD MPEG-4.
     
  15. HoTat2

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    7,264
    179
    Nov 16, 2005
    Los...
    No, for example there are actually Ka-Band MPEG-4 SD National channels like "Free Speech TV" (FSTV) ch. 348, and "Golden Eagle Broadcasting" (GEB) ch. 363. And I have a local DTV sub-channel here in L.A. KLCS 58-2 that is also an SD MPEG-4 channel on Ka-band.
     
  16. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    42,683
    348
    Dec 9, 2006
    Well I'll have to leave those channels to you to figure out their bit-rates then. None of my local subs are over the SAT and the two you listed aren't anything I'd record or watch.
     
  17. HoTat2

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    7,264
    179
    Nov 16, 2005
    Los...
    OK;

    Just thought it might be interesting to know considering that it is not the popularity of the two channels GEB and FSTV that are so much significant as it is they are the newest SD channel additions and may mark a new direction DirecTV is going now for any new SD channels since SD 101 is full (except for add/drops).

    Therefore any further SD channels to the lineup must go MPEG-4 on Ka-band as well.
     
  18. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    42,683
    348
    Dec 9, 2006
    You can monitor your network connection while using DirecTV2PC to playback a recording from one of those channels and get an idea, but clearly it should be less than 3 Mb/s.
     

Share This Page