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Will Washington DC HD locals be moving with SD locals?

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by sbell1, Mar 13, 2006.

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  1. James Long

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    In my market they are carrying "UPN Michiana". WSBT 22 CBS has a special UPN feed on it's subcarrier at 22.2. All the area cable companies have picked it up and E* has also added the channel. "UPN Michiana" is not available in analog OTA. (We also have two OTA LP stations that are carried on E*, a WB affilate and an ABC affiliate. Sorry TNGTony.)

    Other markets have LP channels that are also subcarriers on ATSC channels. Some of those are on E*. I'm not sure that any other market has an ATSC only channel like I have ... but I wouldn't be suprised.
     
  2. Geronimo

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    That was interesting. Thanks.
     
  3. vinobabu

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    Dear Mr. XXX,

    Thank you for your response. Existing DISH Network customers are getting the local channels at 61.5 satellite location using a second dish. Eventually, we will be upgrading their dishes to our new DISH 1000 that way they will not be required two satellite dishes. The information online may have not been updated yet but we assure you that you will be able to get your local channels in HD using the DISH 1000.

    We apologize for the inconvenience this issue may have caused you. Your business is greatly appreciated and we thank you for allowing us to be of assistance to you. If you have any further questions or concerns, please refer to or reply to this email.


    Sincerely,

    Christina C.

    DISH Network eCare
     
  4. Rogueone

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    write Christina back and mention to her she is in error :) Ask her to look at their coverage map for 129. About 30-40% of the DC market is in the non-viewable area of 129, so moving our HD locals to 129 wouldn't work. Then see how she responds to that :)

    Dish only has 1 option, the one I've expected, to resolve this. The only option for 1 dish would be to put our HD locals on 110, but no matter what they do, DC will not be a single dish market. Only some of it can be a single dish market
     
  5. Frank Monroe

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    Before reading this thread, I sent this same questin to ceo@echostar.com. I was asking because I cannot reach both 61.5 and the other three satellites from my current apartment or from where I am about to move. I asked if the DC local HD channels would ever be available on the satellites reachable from the DISH1000. The person's response was: I am not sure technically how this will be done, but we will soon have a single dish solution for customers in the DC area.
     
  6. Rogueone

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    i wonder if they are considering persons in say the St Mary's area as Balitmore instead of DC? :) I can't see them making DC a single dish market unless the person is only talking locals and they plan to put all our locals on 110 once E10 is there. But that wouldn't help HD customers get HD on 1 dish, but that would be a way to get all locals, even HD, on one dish :)
     
  7. CCarncross

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    It seems that some keep forgetting the details of teh one dish rule....

    James rehashed it yet again in this post on page one of this thread..

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=547451&postcount=14

    The one dish rule does not mean one dish for all customers, if you had SD ocals and HD, you may still have 2 dishes....
     
  8. vinobabu

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    Christina , was indeed in error...:( . No local HD for me from Dish 1000. I have scheduled a second dish install to get 61.5.
     
  9. Rogueone

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    sorry for your troubles. such a shame the customers know more than the csr's :)
     
  10. Frank Monroe

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    I just got off the phone with the Executive Office of E*. This person told me that indeed the Washington DC HD locals would be available on one of the Dish 1000 satellites later this year. He says they will be moving or mirroring them one at a time over this year.
     
  11. Rogueone

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    I have always thought it made sense for DC and Atlanta HD locals to be on 110. I suspect once the split wing stuff is done, that may occur for us. But it doesn't eliminate the fact a 1000 can NOT be used in the DC market, as at least 30%, and likely upwards are 70%, of the market wouldn't be able to see 129. DC is what I like to call a flat city, i.e, we don't have high rises. The tallest building is what, 20 stories, and there are only a handful that size.

    DC's suburbs are built "into" the surrounding landscape, the trees were not clearcut, but roads were cut "thru" the forest to make housing. So between mountains to the west, low lieing land to the east, and very tall trees everywhere you look, the likelihood of even 30% of the subs in this market seeing 129 are slim. Too many obstructions. so, if they stated "moved to a 1000 satellite" it's not going to be to 129. And if they stupidly and ignorantly try it (along with dropping 61.5) they'll quickly learn they can't. My installer mentioned something along those lines, that the early 1000 installs had to get yanked because it just wasn't feasible to see 129 here.
     
  12. Frank Monroe

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    I may have actually added more to what he said than what he actually said. He really didn't specifically say Dish 1000. What he said was that the DC HD locals would be available later this year on a satellite that would allow a one dish solution. The reason for the change is the installs are too complex and not everyone can get a line of site in each direction.
     
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