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Will you be renewing Hot Pass for 2009?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by RunnerFL, Oct 20, 2008.

Will you be renewing Hot Pass for 2009?

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  1. Brian Hanasky

    Brian Hanasky Godfather

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    No. I won't renew Hotpass for next year.
    My main reason was the censorship. I love Jr. but hate the censorship.

    My second reason is that I have 2 small kids and most of the time I need to record the race and watch it later in the evening. With Hotpass I'd be recording 1 channel and wasting the other channels. With the financial system the way it is I'd rather waste my money on something else.

    My last reason is that while Hotpass is great to focus only on 1 driver you end up losing the "story" of the race by ignoring the overall picture.
     
  2. karlhenri

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    Not a Nascar fan, but if i was watching races every week, $29.99 would feel like little to pay for what it offers even with the imperfections.
     
  3. dcowboy7

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    not renewing because i didnt have it in the 1st place.
     
  4. pfueri

    pfueri Godfather

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    YES
    I think it is worth it to be able to see your driver and the race when their is a advertisment.And we know Nascar has alot of them.I guess I can live with the censoring.The only thing they need to do is make the race screen bigger than the advertisment screen when they go to a advertisment.
     
  5. techdimwit

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    NO. For reasons spelled out in the other Hotpass thread which I will not repeat here. But my NO is final.

    Beg to differ. Last year Junior was featured in every regular season race except the rare road races. He was only excluded from the Chase because he didn't make the Chase. Considering that he had a channel in 24 of 26 regular season races and would have been featured in the final ten if they could have justified it, it was pretty Junior-centric. This season he had a channel in 34 of 36 races which is ridiculous and the number one reason I will not renew. And I actually like Junior.

    Huh??? It was over $80.00 for the season. Compared to the other sports packages it was a deal but without any variety or parity among the drivers featured, they won't be getting my money again.
     
  6. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    The why vote or post in this thread? geez...

    Obviously the poll is for those who already have it.
     
  7. millertime

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    Finances are too tough. However I like the fact that the 29 seems to be on quite a bit more this year than last. On the other hand it makes it more frustrating with all the censorship especially when your driver uses a lot of swear words in his conversations. I pay money to hear all that stuff. Anyway if they came out and said fine we hear you and next year we will just give a explicit content warning and stop censoring I would probably find a way to renew.
     
  8. KAL

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    I was given the Hot Pass for free as a part of a recent sign up promo for new customers that I was glad to take advantage of. Before Hot Pass, I was indifferent towards NASCAR. After viewing a few races through the Hot Pass, im now at the very least a casual fan. im leaning towards renewing and paying for the service next year. Silly question but im assuming that "Jr" is Dale? Looking at some of the comments here, seems like there is some favoritism towards Dale by direct tv? Or is it something else? Anyhow, im sure nascar wont mind new fans like myself taking interest.
     
  9. jp23mc

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    I'll be renewing more than likely. I just can't bear to sit through a whole race with only the ESPN crew.

    Being an 88 fan I can understand why fans of other drivers would be annoyed by having what in essence is a dedicated Jr. channel. Honestly, though, I doubt it's a cash cow with the low subscription price. So why would they want to alienate the largest part of their audience? I'd be interested to see the viewership numbers for each driver.

    That said, I'd like to see whoever is directing Jr's channel go somewhere (anywhere) else. They need to learn that it's really annoying to watch the race with their constantly changing the screen layout. I watch other channels and they stay pretty consistently on the 3-frame, 2 high 1 low format, but you can watch 796 and get 5 layouts in a minute.
     
  10. Talos4

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    Yes, I'll renew.

    Not a huge fan of JR.

    I tend to watch more on 799 and monitor Mikey's audio. I've never really noticed the Censorship issue on 799.


    It was either Kansas of Talledega I can't remember which. Mikey was pretty raw with his crew, dropped lot's of F bombs in one conversation. Then spent the next 20 mins apologizing to his crew for the outburst.

    There was no censorship at all.

    I find I watch the hotpass much more after Fox goes away. Can't stand Bill Weber or Dr. Punch as a PBP guy.
     
  11. SPACEMAKER

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    There is favoritism towards Dale Jr. because he has a huge fan base. As I said in an earlier post it's his fans that are basically subsidizing Hotpass for the rest of us which is why it is so inexpensive to subscribe. Since Hotpass was first introduced they have made drastice improvements and will likely continue to improve the product. I used to subscribe to NASCAR In-Car and Hotpass is infinitely better due to the HD, the audio options and the multiple camera angles. As evidenced by this thread and other Hotpass threads, not everyone is going to be happy. The very nature of many people is to only comment or post about something when they have a complaint. I suspect that the majority of people are quite happy with Hotpass and subscriber growth will increase.
     
  12. RunnerFL

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    Sometimes it's censored and sometimes it's not. DirecTV claims however that each week is censored. Go figure...
     
  13. smokes20

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    Ain't it the truth .. :rolleyes: ... Smoke can start a tirade, well deserved to the driver who is on the receiving end, and immediately there is nothing but silence and the silence continues. Then in another race, Smoke starts conversing with Zippy and we hear every word in vivid tones.

    More of the first than the latter. When Smoke does get a channel, the camera inside the car rarely works.

    The only positive thing I can say about Hotpass and the 1 + 3 dedicated driver channels is that with each and every race the viewer has the option of viewing the race and keeping the team audio on during commericals.
     
  14. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    That's the only benefit I'm getting from it these days.
     
  15. Juppers

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    Which isn't much of a benefit if your driver isn't Jr or one of the 3 featured drivers.
     
  16. chuckrollz

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    nope. i was at the daytona 500 and i would text my friends something someone said on the radio, and they would reply, yeah we just heard that on the hotpass!

    so i ordered it... and its crap.
     
  17. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Exactly my point. :)
     
  18. smokes20

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    Exactly. I haven't bothered to actually figure out the percentage of "other" drivers who actually get a dedicated channel and the number of times the viewers driver has one. Since Smoke is really the only driver I care about getting a dedicated channel, there isn't an incentive for me to continue getting Hotpass since Smoke hasn't had many dedicated channel races this season. And the ones he did have in the beginning of the season were laced with silent air space on the team/hotpass audio channels. Smoke is extremely colorful vocally describing his mood of the moment and the button pusher tends to hold down the fingers way too long. While other audio channels got all the colorful language spoken.

    I did forget to mention in my post above that even when Smoke was audio only, there were many races where the network announcers drowned out Smoke's team audio. :nono2: . That eventually was fixed but its too late for me to invest another $89./ next year and cross fingers that Smoke's audio will work right or that he will get a dedicated channel more frequently than this season.
     
  19. SPACEMAKER

    SPACEMAKER Freethinker

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    Even if the 24 never got a dedicated channel I would still subscribe. At less than $2.50 per race Hotpass is dirt cheap. Also, I hate commercials. With Hotpass I can still watch racing with one of the drivers channels and keep up with what's going on and often have the luxury of being able to see the 24 on another driver's channel. For the people that are avid fans of Cup racing Hotpass is a great. For people that are fans of one particular driver not named Dale Earnhardt Jr. then maybe Trackspass would be better provided that a computer is within site of the TV. Either way it just comes down to what the best option is. For me the best option is Hotpass. It's got it's flaws but at only $89 for 10 months and 36 races it's easy to justify.
     
  20. jimmymiko

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    I always ended up watching the national coverage after about an hour of hotpass. I will not be renewing even though I am a huge NASCAR fan.
     

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