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Discussion in 'ViP612/622/722/722K DVR Support Forum' started by bartendress, Feb 24, 2008.
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The ability to group by title, sort alphabetically, sort by recorded date (like you can w/shows stored on receiver).
Photos uploaded to receiver:
The ability to control order of slideshow
The ability to play music channels in background while slideshow is showing
...integration with online/internet features they've been talking about
and last, but not least... more worthwhile HD channels in the program guide!! ( - :
Did you know that the EHD list follows that of your receiver? If you have sort by date, then your EHD will be sorted by date. By name? Then by name!
I heard somewhere on here that EHD programs will soon be showing up the regular recorded program guide. That would be sweet.
I want the ability to record directly to the EHD.
I also want an option to search HD only - not DishPASS.
I've directly suggested an easier solution that might make *some* people happy. Before I got my new tv, I was also one of the people begging for native pass thru so I wouldn't have to keep switching inputs on my TV when I went from an HD channel to an SD channel or vice versa. (old 4:3 1080i CRT).
Any easier fix for Dish to implement would be to store a resolution (480 or 1080) along with the *format*. The 622 stores the format beautifully, easily distinguishing between HD channels and non-HD channels with a separate setting for each set. Simply add a resolution setting to that (480 for SD, 1080 for HD) and I would have been a happy camper. I even discussed this with Dish network technical people. But I gave up and bought a new TV.
When is web-based timer progamming coming out? Can I say that's my wish list item?
Yes, you can put that on the list.
There is no announced timetable for that feature. Hopefully when it does come out the website side will be much less complicated and more intuitive. I wouldn't mind seeing an interface similar to what is on the 622/722 ... something familiar!
Although sd vs hd may be one thing, what most people are interested in is 720P as 720P and 1080I as 1080i. If your set supports both (as displayed not as received) this can be a big improvement.
Essentially the easiest way to do this from a gui point of view is to list each 480i, 480P, 720P and 1080i, and then allow you to assign each one the output you want. Since 1080P30/24 exist in the OTA standard but are not output by these machines I guess assign them as you do the 1080i signal.
Hmmm. Not sure I agree with the 'most people' part. Maybe. For me, I own a high end video processor. It will upscale and upconvert a 480i into 1080i a heck of a lot better than a 622 can. I'm now stuck with a compromise. Do I take a 720p from the 622, either upconverted 480 or downconverted 1080, or do I use the 1080i output which makes me rely on the 622 to upconvert/upscale a 480i signal?
If the actual output was the actual resolution, my video processor could handle the upscale/upconvert chore to 1080p for a MUCH better picture. The HDMI output on the 622 should be able to carry the entire array of signals from 480i to 1080p.
That's exactly what tnsprin is saying (at least what I understand him to say). Most people want the data stream passed out of the 622 the same way as the original without any conversion so that it can be converted by a more capable video processor than the 622.
is it a certainty that whatever signal the 622 is getting from the satellite is the orignal resolution for each channel? Or is there a chance that some processing occurs even before it gets to the 622?
More than a chance ... the very nature of satellite broadcasting requires compression and processing of the signal. Even the signal DISH receives is "processed".
Back to wishes ...
There is a lot of threads on Native Resolution Pass through which is obviously a bad name. I think what is desired by the end user is the ability to set an output resolution for each input type resolution (1080i, 720p, 480p, 480i) and also the ability to say output at the expected output resolution (WHich is commonly referred to is Native Resolution Pass through).
If given this control knobs then the user can set the output at 480i for SD content select the desired output resolution for the HD feeds. The use cases this addresses is..
1) My TV only can accept 720p output.
2) When I am watching HD I want to get 720p to my TV and when watching SD I want to get 480i.
3) I want my TV to get 480p for SD and 1080i for HD.
4) I want my TV to receive what the intended resolution based on the content.
Ofcourse based on reports of other systems with this functionality there may be a performance hit on channel changing, but I think most are in agreement it would be nice to have this option and it is on the top of a lot of peoples lists. Look at the last few Wish List polls and you can see the demand.
I want native passthrough, or at least 1080p output.
I can live with the so-so scaler and de-interlacer, but it kills me to know that 25% of my 720p signal gets thrown out the window as it's scan lines are reduced from 720->540 to do 1080i. Detail out the window. 720p->1080i->1080p is nasty compared to 720p->1080p
I think a lot of the performance hit comes from the TV itself as it figures out what the resolution is and changes to it.
The ability to record two programs that overlap on one tuner and still get the same as if they were on two tuners.
On channel 009-00 (local NBC station)
Record first show:
6:57 to 7:32
Record second show:
7:27 to 8:02
This should yield two shows:
Show #1: 35 minutes
Show #2: 35 minutes
Currently if recorded on the same tuner the software automatically cuts off the first show at 7:30 and starts the second recording after a small break of about 15 to 30 seconds and you end up with:
Show #1: 33 minutes
Show #2: 32 minutes
Just add an ending pad of more than 3 minutes and different tuners will be used.
How about fixing the HDMI problem that some people (like me!) have or have had for months? Somehow I don't think it will happen. As soon as Direct gets their act together, Dish may have a mutiny.
I think everyone agrees that BUG fixes are always first. When we are talking wish list we are mostly talking new features we would like to see.