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Working eSata Setups:

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by houskamp, Jul 14, 2007.

  1. Richierich

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    Yes, I have too much blood spilled all over me fighting those Cutting Edge or Bleeding Edge Battles. :lol:
     
  2. hasan

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    While I agree with P. Smith, at least in sentiment, I wanted reliability and reasonable cost, At which point I consulted Rich584. He provided his own, and several others' experience with the EVDS drives and the Thermaltake Dock.

    I am now (based on my own experience and that of those who preceded me), recommending the same: 2 TB EVDS and Thermaltake. It works with all models, it is idiiot proof and the cost is quite reasonable.

    IOW, ! likey
     
  3. kymikes

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    Well, it has been about 2 weeks. Based on an extensive sample of ONE, I have had no problems with this WD20EARS drive in a MX-1 enclosure on an HR21-700. This DVR is a primary viewing location and have had over 20 SL's running and have recorded and viewed quite a few shows. I have used it in MRV from other receivers w/o any problems. I have no background noise from the drive and have it in a vertical position adjacent to the HR21.

    At this point, everything looks good within this configuration. YMMV but I would call this success.
     
  4. Rich

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    Thanx, glad to see they work.:)

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  5. CT_Wiebe

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    kymikes -- Well you've had better luck than I've had. None of my MX-1s with the EADS drives work at all (after an FW update last year -- HR20-700). I switched to the Thermaltake BlacX (eSATA/USB) docking station and the WD20EVDS drives (I have 3). They just plain work!

    With the docking station, it's real easy to put in a replacement HDD when one fills up. The down-side is that the drive is out in the air (not protected or shielded). However, that hasn't been a problem, so far (in about 7 months of use).
     
  6. P Smith

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    Do you know any undisputed reason why it must be protected or/and shielded ? ;)
     
  7. hasan

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    I have the 2 TB EVDS and Thermaltake dock and love the combo.

    I will say that the open drive is exposed to potential static discharge from pets or my carelessness. The other issue would be a connector on a cable could come in contact with the exposed circuit board, and since the connector body is at ground potential, it would short out the circuit pad to ground.

    I consider both of these possible, but unlikely, so I just leave mine exposed. It is sitting on the TV stand behind the TV.
     
  8. Rich

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    Pretty unlikely if P Smith's correct about their being nothing juiced up exposed. That opinion was one of the reasons I bought my first one. Sure hope he's right.

    Rich
     
  9. hasan

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    While I haven't done any measurements (and I won't, for fear of shorting a trace/pad while doing it), I'd be very surprised if the 20 or so exposed circuit pads have no voltage on them...that is very unlikely. The voltage is going to be low, so I'm not talking personal or pet danger here, just the propensity to accidentally short a pad to ground or another part of the circuitry. The other danger is more likely and that is static discharge from my finger, should I be all "charged up", and do something like touch a pad on the circuit board. That can't be good :)

    Do you remember the computers in the '80s where if we static discharged our finger to the computer chassis, they would instantly reboot? Lotsa fun!

    Nevertheless, I'm not at all worried. It's behind the TV, plenty of ventillation, and no cats have climbed up on that stand (yet).

    Ohhh...and thanks again for that original tip. It has been what...six months or so...and the EVDS with dock purrs right along. I can't hear any noise from it, above ambient room noise, unless I go stand right on top of it and bend over to listen, and even then it is minimal.

    I did have to reboot after the overnight firmware upgrade on the HR20-700 the other day, in order for the eSATA to be recognized, but I didn't have to disconnect it, just a simple restart. I'd say about 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 times the eSATA is not recognized with a non-firmware upgrade restart. I can live with it.
     
  10. yoccm1

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    Picked up Thermaltake Black Widow doc station with a Western Digital - Caviar Black 2TB Internal Serial ATA Hard Drive for Desktops - Black/Silver Model: WD20000LSRTL. Any one get this to work. I would like to here success or horror storys before opening the box.
     
  11. P Smith

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    Why you need to hear someone story ?! Open the box, connect it, test it - tell us your result (add your box model !) - if it doesn't work for you - pack it back and return to that store. End of story. :) The thread is BTW about "working eSATA setup", so you should tell us.
     
  12. RaceTripper

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    These are my three setups. The two HR20s have had the ext drives running since last summer. The HR24 and ext drive were new in October.

    (1) HR24-500:
    Western Digital AV-GP SATA Intellipower 2 TB (WD20EVDS)
    (2) HR20-700
    Seagate Barracuda 1.5 TB (ST31500341AS)
    (3) HR20-700
    Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB (WD1001FALS)

    All using the Antec MX-1 enclosure and
    eSATA cable: SIIG CB-SA0111-S1

    I have had problems using the eSATA cable that comes with the Antec enclosure.
     
  13. Rich

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    That's odd. The eSATA to eSATA usually works well with the MX-1. Did you have the problem with the Black Caviar drive?

    Rich
     
  14. RaceTripper

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    I had problems with the one running the 1.5 TB Barracuda. I tried reversing the cable orientation, and ended up just getting a SIIG overnight from Amazon. Problem solved.

    On the other two, I just transferred the SIIGs I used with my Seagate FreeAgent Pro. Those included cables definitely didn't work with my HR20-700s.

    The Caviar Black works fine, although it's the noisiest of the lot.
     
  15. Rich

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    I do know that the SIIGs are very good cables, just never needed one. I gave up on the Seagate HDDs a while ago. I think I've seen more negative posts about the WD Black Caviars than positive ones.

    Rich
     
  16. RaceTripper

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    If I were to replace the WD BC, I would get another 2TB EVDS. But I can't sneak it in because that's the DVR with all of Mrs. RaceTripper's stuff.
     
  17. Rich

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    Know what you mean, I've been trying to get rid of a leased 21-700, but my wife's got all her stuff on it.:)

    Rich
     
  18. RaceTripper

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    I have MRV and the iOS D* app, so I've been using that to start recording her shows with a backup on my office DVR. At some point I'll be able to do an upgrade (to a HR24 + new 2 TB drive). She doesn't keep stuff once seen.
     
  19. Rich

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    It's amazing how once they get their mitts on our "man toys" they become their toys, isn't it?

    Rich
     
  20. RaceTripper

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    Indeed. That can be a good thing. Get 'em hooked and baited for "upgrade" logic!
     

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