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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Batem, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. Sep 3, 2010 #1 of 43
    Batem

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    We could switch back and forth from external hard drive to internal hard drive without rebooting on the HR series receivers.
     
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    hdtvfan0001

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    I agree it would be nice....but doubt it will ever happen, as each drive requires its own data content indexing...and making that happen with some form of software "switch" is quite combersome and highly unlikely.
     
  3. Sep 4, 2010 #3 of 43
    Batem

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    I know it will probably never happen but it's nice to dream.I got my internal almost full and I am ready to use my external.It just sucks to have to restart.
     
  4. Sep 4, 2010 #4 of 43
    P Smith

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    Nothing extraordinary or 'quite combersome' require to implement the switch.
     
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    JACKIEGAGA

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    At least you know you still have those recordings
     
  6. Sep 8, 2010 #6 of 43
    TomCat

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    It would also be nice if my desk at work had a beer tap on it.

    The best workaround seems to be to replace the internal before you ever make that first recording, with a 2 TB EADS or EVDS from WD, for about $130 on Amazon. Or if skittish about that, another $50 will get you an Antec enclosure.

    But once you have half of your serialized shows on the internal and half on the external, its a giant PITA. Avoid that by never recording on the internal, or replacing it immediately.
     
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    Rich

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    We've been beating this subject to death for years. It isn't gonna happen.

    Rich
     
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    Mike Bertelson

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    IIRC, all the HR's are single channel SATA so I'm not sure how easy it would be (or if it's possible )to swap from one source to another while the system is live. :shrug:

    I'm pretty sure the single SATA is true up to the HR24-500. I'm not sure about subsequent HR24s though.

    Mike
     
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    TheRatPatrol

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    If E* can do it, why can't D*? :eek:
     
  10. Mike Bertelson

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    Dish DVRs can swap between internal and external drives on the fly?

    Aren't Dishes external drive USB?

    Mike
     
  11. hdtvfan0001

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    I suspect DirecTV will explore the idea of using the combined resources of internal and external drive resources as an "expansion" model, as opposed to swapping. Then again....they have not stated any formal plans for changes to external hard drive storage.
     
  12. P Smith

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    That's is your mistake - all HR devices (main chip) has TWO SATA channels.
     
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    I'm not 100% sure, but I know that they can see and access both drives at the same time without having to do a reset. Not sure if they're USB or eSATA.
     
  14. Mike Bertelson

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    Hmmmm....I thought the BCM7038 in the HR20 had two channels but I'm pretty sure the BCM7401 only has only one. Didn't the TiVos with the 7401 need a port multiplier?

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  15. P Smith

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    Oh, I see. But, by short Broadcom description the 7401 has one SATA channel ... But how eSATA connector exist on those models ?!

    Isn't 7038 using in other then HR20?
     
  16. Mike Bertelson

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    With the 7401 it's an either or situation...internal or external...unless there's a port multiplier.

    AFAIK, the 7038/7411 was used only in the HR20-700, HR20-100. The HR21 - HR23 use the 7401.

    I was wrong about the HR24-500's CX24500. It has dual SATA channels but .... :shrug:

    I don't know anything about the chips in the subsequent HR24s.

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    There was a way to piggy back the original internal and a bigger HDD in the TiVos too. Involved a two HDD bracket and jumper wires between them. Then they added together for capacity. Don't remember if the programs on the original internal were saved.

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    I wonder if Directv's move to potentially support eSata EHD would finally add the ability to keep internal drive and use eSata EHD for expansion.

    Maybe that was the OP's question. That would be nice for the devices that may(?) already be capable!!!
     
  19. hdtvfan0001

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    Hmmm.... I knew that sounded familiar.... :D
     
  20. Mike Bertelson

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    I know they were on the HDVR2. The OS simply incorporated the new drive into the the current volume and you were good to go.

    However, they were ATA/IDE and you could daisy chain two drives off a port where as SATA is one port one drive (except if it's attached to a port multiplier that is, then you can attach multiple drives to a single SATA port).

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