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Would you like to see "Auto Tune" added to the HR20?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Michael D'Angelo, Aug 17, 2007.

Would you like to see "Auto Tune" added to the HR20?

  1. Yes

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    0.1%
  2. No

    754 vote(s)
    81.4%
  3. No Preference

    171 vote(s)
    18.5%
  1. Oct 21, 2007 #81 of 306
    Steve

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    Yes, we are a small percentage of the population, but don't many of us have non-technical wives, children, parents and grandparents we've observed trying to use this equipment???? :)

    Lots of people on this forum post based on observed family experience (such as your wife's), as well as personal experience. I know I do, and I'm certainly not unique based on 100s of posts I've read in these threads. /steve
     
  2. Oct 25, 2007 #82 of 306
    Michael D'Angelo

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    This has been talked about in a few threads the last couple of days so I wanted to bump it for new members to see.
     
  3. Oct 25, 2007 #83 of 306
    rbrome

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    I like that idea a lot. However, I think scheduled AutoTunes don't need to actually appear in the Prioritizer. I think if you simply made them lower priority than all scheduled recordings, that would be adequate and simpler. I can't fathom a situation where I'd want an AutoTune to take priority over a recording, and I also can't fathom why I'd have multiple overlapping AutoTunes (that wouldn't make much sense).

    Although... if it did come up, (an AutoTune conflicting with a recording, or another AutoTune,) it wouldn't hurt to have it pop up the normal conflict choice box right before it starts. I'd only care about AutoTune priority if I were right there watching it at the time, in which case the pop-up would suffice. AutoTunes would only need to show up in the Prioritizer if it mattered when you weren't watching, but that would be pretty pointless, wouldn't it? ;-)

    I could see AutoTunes being awesome for something like a bar or restaurant that wants to set up what will play on their TVs for the night and let it run itself.
     
  4. Oct 25, 2007 #84 of 306
    rbrome

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    Should AutoTunes be individual? Or allow a "Series Link" type of AutoTune
    Both


    Should the AutoTunes also take up slots in the prioritizer?
    No, they should always have lower priority. No need to set it.


    Should they be allowed to cause conflicts to recordings?
    Not by default, although the normal pop-up for conflicts should offer the option to cancel the recording in favor of the scheduled AutoTune (it wouldn't be the default, though.)


    Should there be an easy way to convert an AutoTune to a Recording?

    Should AutoTune wake up the box out of Standby (like it does on the non-dvr products)

    Should AutoTune then shut the box back into Standby (if it woke it up), when the recording is over...


    Those are all neat ideas. Sure, why not? :)
     
  5. Oct 25, 2007 #85 of 306
    HolmesCo

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    defintiely, I loved this in my first RCA D* recevier. Pop up reminders of shows etc. Loved it.
     
  6. Oct 29, 2007 #86 of 306
    Michael D'Angelo

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    Bump for new members.......
     
  7. Oct 29, 2007 #87 of 306
    jeff125va

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    Do the people voting yes - those who really WANT this feature - have their DVR's in a constantly full state? Are their hard drives so full that every time something records (to the list), something else gets deleted?
     
  8. Oct 29, 2007 #88 of 306
    Michael D'Angelo

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    I don't think this is a problem for a lot of us, at least not for me. I just think it is a great feature for a lot of the reasons already posted in this thread.

    Just a few:

    1) The unit would tune to the news or whatever every morning at a certain time for you and you don't need to worry about deleting it every day.

    2) Using it as a reminder. This is big for me. If I am watching TV and looking for some thing to watch I flip through the guide and if I see something coming on in a little while it is nice to be able to set a "Auto Tune" like I do on my other receivers none DVR's to remind me. If I don't set an "Auto Tune" I forget about the show all the time and remember after it has already started. If I set it to record than I have to delete something that I am watching live. I just figured since DirecTV already has the code for the other receivers it would not be that hard to add into the DVR's.

    2a) College football. It is very nice for this because a lot of the games start times are all over the place. So I decide to watch game A until game B starts because that is the game I really want to watch. Right now I have two options with my DVR. Set it to record which I don't want to because I will have to delete it or have to remember and take the chance of missing the beginning of the game. That is very easy to do when you get into the other game.
     
  9. Oct 29, 2007 #89 of 306
    jeff125va

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    Makes sense. I guess I was thinking that if you set up a 1-minute recording of a certain channel, that it would be tuned to that channel when you "turn on" the receiver. But I guess that's not always the case. And definitely wouldn't be the case if you were watching Live TV on a different channel.

    I guess if there were DLB's it would take care of this problem... then you could set up a 1-minute recording (which you could set to KAM 1 and never have to delete it) and at least one of the buffers would be on the channel you want.
     
  10. Nov 1, 2007 #90 of 306
    Michael D'Angelo

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    Ok, I went back and added some of the positives of "Auto Tune" to post #1 to make it a little easier for people to look at and understand the benefits of having it.

    Also if anyone would like me to add anything else to it please post here and let me know.
     
  11. Nov 1, 2007 #91 of 306
    hasan

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    Its (autotune's) prijmary use for me is in archiving HR20 recordings to DVD. There are some shows that I need to get to portable media for my wife. Right now, the only way to do it is to either watch the program live and record it to DVD in parallel with the HR20, or play it back and record ....both are tedious at best, when a simple autotune makes the process fully "automatic"

    Even presetting the channel on the HR20 is unreliable, as it will change channels if there are other recordings set, and of course, the HR20 has spontaneously reset channels a time or two. That method also depends on me remembering to leave the HR20 on the right channel before I go to bed.

    So, the reason I want autotune is not that I'm stupid, or not because my HD is full, (thanks for the flattering assumptions), but because I need to get some shows off the HR20 and on to portable media for someone who is only in town on the weekends. I suppose she's stupid for not being here during the week, or not being smart enough to get a job with time off when her shows are on.

    I'll have to work on that.:)
     
  12. Nov 1, 2007 #92 of 306
    Thaedron

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    I still like the feature, though as far as the wishlist is concerned, auto-tune has met it's maker and is being pushed to the back burner per Steve's update this week.
     
  13. Nov 1, 2007 #93 of 306
    TedBarrett

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    Using it as a reminder. This is big for me.


    This is big for me too.
     
  14. Nov 1, 2007 #94 of 306
    Thaedron

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    Agreed, I was just pointing out the change to the people discussing here.

    Auto-tune seems like a desireable feature (58% of respondents here), just not one that rises close enough to the top to stay on the wishlist.
     
  15. Nov 1, 2007 #95 of 306
    Steve

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    This doesn't mean it's off D*'s radar, however. It just means it's not a votable item anymore. They've already seen the request. Since it's an item important to a minority of voters, moving it to "back burner" status may be a better place for it, rather than having it remain on the active list in last place, because the majority of voters are giving it "THUMBS DOWNS". /steve
     
  16. Nov 2, 2007 #96 of 306
    gregjones

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    I voted no because I believe there is a simpler fix. What you are asking for could easily be accomplished by setting a series link with an "at most 1 episode" option. The only other item would be the ability to say that the DVR should select the tuner actively recording (if there is one) when the unit is turned on.
     
  17. Nov 2, 2007 #97 of 306
    Michael D'Angelo

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    There is three problems with this.

    1) It will be recording on the back ground tuner not the active tuner. So using it as a reminder will not work if you don't see the record light come on.

    2) This will only work for a show that you want every day. But for sports games or movie/show that is about to come on you are not going to set a series link for them.

    3) If you want to use a DVD recorder when you are not home your idea will not work because the recording will take place on the back ground tuner, not the active tuner.
     
  18. Nov 2, 2007 #98 of 306
    gregjones

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    You missed my point. My point was to have a flag where you could set the recording tuner to be the active one. I would rather see this built as additional functionality based on existing code. In essence, a flag under DISPLAY that says "switch to recording tuner" which could be set to on and a new option under KEEP UNTIL that says SCHEDULE ONLY.

    This would minimize changes.
     
  19. Nov 3, 2007 #99 of 306
    Michael D'Angelo

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    Bump...........
     
  20. Nov 3, 2007 #100 of 306
    Coffey77

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    I actually like the idea of an alternative solution to OTA reception. I don't think the internal tuner of the HR20 is all that great. Maybe it need some tweaking but I don't think there's all that much they can do. I'd rather they offer support to a USB device or similar and allow us to chose which is better. I have one for my laptop which receives signal far better than the HR20-700 tuner does. Unfortunately it's not just a simple idea of turning this feature "ON". It requires a lot of additional software and settings to make something like that to happen so if it were to happen, it wouldn't be overnight. ;)
     

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