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Would you Release Candidate Test... If it was available?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Earl Bonovich, Feb 23, 2006.

Would you test - Release Candidates

  1. Yes - I would update with any software version

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  2. Maybe - Depends on the fixes/features in that release

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  3. No - I wouldn't want to take the risk

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  1. Wolffpack

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    Oh come on. Every NDA is different. It's specific. If the Tivo NDA said you can never reveal the fact you were part of a Tivo Beta then those are the rules you need to live by.

    I've never been in a Tivo beta. Never seen that NDA.
     
  2. ISWIZ

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    Well, they can revoke my remote.:D

    If everyone followed those rules (if that was the rule) than we would never know there was beta testing.:rolleyes:
     
  3. Clint Lamor

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    I was referring more directly to the TiVo ;)
     
  4. thumperr

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    I'd be interested.
     
  5. Wolffpack

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    Are you speaking from experience?
     
  6. Clint Lamor

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    Experience with them or experience of getting in trouble for saying things i'm not supposed to?
     
  7. ISWIZ

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    If he told you he'd have to kill you:rolleyes:

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    For reasons of National Security he can't disclose that:D


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    Since 9/11 we must monitor all conversations for tivoist activity:lol:
     
  8. Earl Bonovich

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    Just so we are clear again...

    This discussion for this thread, is related to running "Release Candidate" software. Not betas... similar, but not the same.

    True Betas would be under tighter control and would require some form of "NDA". Release Candidates are those versions of software that the company feels is "ready" to go out to the public, usually AFTER Alpha and Beta testing.... But they want a bigger subset of non-test users to give a shake down before pushing it to 100,000's of boxes...
     
  9. cabanaboy1977

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    Earl, If we where able to be a part of this would they be able to target an single box in your house, or would all your R15's get it? And if there are major issues do you think they'd be able to rollback your version, or do you have to wait for them to release the next version? Just curious.
     
  10. Earl Bonovich

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    Most likely, you would have to "force" the download with the 02468 code.. During a stated window of time.

    It wouldn't be a sign-up and we push it, type thing.

    I doubt you would be able to roll back to a previous version though... That would be one of the risks.

    But you would then be able to choose which unit you wanted to try it out on.
     
  11. cabanaboy1977

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    As long as I could choose the unit I really don't have an issues then.
     
  12. Clint Lamor

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    No actually I used to own a game development company and we used NDA's quite extensively and also where under NDA's quite often for many pieces of software and hardware. They are VERY strict about not talking to anyone ever about anything you saw or used. Even after product release. Nothing cloak and dagger about it. :)
     
  13. Earl Bonovich

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    Even an extra chip soldered on the board, and having to score 100,000 points to get the secret message...

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  14. Clint Lamor

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    Yes it is usually post beta but the RC cycle for companies like MS are usually quite long and are more a form of an advanced beta.I think one of the major issues many of us have had with the R15 so far is the seeming lack of testing ability for the current beta team. Far too many major issues seem to have escaped. I am hoping this isn't just something that would turn into, Hey heres the software a couple weeks before everyone else - OH btw you can't tell us anything about it - IF our beta people find issues you may get another new version.

    I hope if this ever comes to see the light of day they at least give us some sort of a more closed conduit to submit problems to them and also see notes on whats being addressed so that we know more of whats going on with this product. Outside of your help which I for one very much appreciate Earl we are sort of left in the dark here, normally you could call a company and speak to tech support to find out whats going on. In this case though there is a MAJOR disconnect between the people in the know and the tech support people at DirecTV.
     
  15. Clint Lamor

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    :D It was actually quite fun, we got to see and use things that where fairly far down the pipe. Usually test hardware we had was 6-18 months down the pipeline before consumers knew it was even coming. Wow getting all giddy over new hardware/software, showing my true inner geek now. :lol:
     
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