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x24 {CE:01:02} 0x038C - Discussion!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV - H24/HR24 Field Trial (private)' started by Spanky_Partain, Dec 23, 2009.

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  1. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    Im pretty happy with my Hr22...Have a Hr20 as well. Was kinda waiting for the Tivo if it ever comes out. Their interface has always been snappy, and relatively simple without all the other options I never use (except to test) on the HR's.
     
  2. barryb

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    I am back in the HR24 game.

    I have a working and activated box here and I'm very much looking forward to more participation, once the next push comes forth. :D
     
  3. hdtvfan0001

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    Good news....hopefully another push for the H24 and HR24 units goes out this week some time.
     
  4. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    Congrats Barry! :D
     
  5. azarby

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    If they (DTV engineering) are like the rest of the big electronics system and chip companies, thye have pretty much shut down this week for the holidays. I would be happy to see an update, but am not really expecting one.

    Bob
     
  6. barryb

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    Push or no push this week: I am happy to be part of the HR24 team again. Its on an obscure software revision right now, so MRV is the only thing not working. Mediashare works like a dream. :)

    Sorry to be a bit off topic in this discussion... I'm just elated.
     
  7. barryb

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    Christmas night was a blast Bob. If they want to do a New Years Day CE night, count me in on that one too.
     
  8. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    Middle...
    That's not too obscure; it's pretty much how things stand for 0x038c for the rest of us. :lol:
     
  9. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    Can you do a Photos Shuffle All? I have well over 10k photos and when I do this I get lockups on all STBs I attempt it on. All my photos are JPGs, ranging from 3 to 6 MB each, direct from with HP or Canon cameras.
     
  10. hdtvfan0001

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    I'm convinced there is a limit to the number of photos that will be indexed with MediaShare.

    I have not had any problems with numerous CE's on numerous H2x and HR2x units using about 8700 photos....whereas you have stated you have had lingering issues with an excess of 10K in photos.

    Can't come up with any other logical reason except a limit.
     
  11. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    I believe this to be the case too and it is likely that the index has a memory leak which overwrites portions of memory causing the lockups. If it is the index, it may be preprocessing of the entire list that is happening, however, from what I can tell the STB calls and responds. In other words, it calls for the photograph, the media server serves it, then the STB displays it. During the display phase at about 2 minutes the STB locksup. What I don't know is when the entire index is realized for the STB, but I suspect when it "looks" for the index and the progress bar moves by is when the index is within the STB. Because the index is already there, since the photo progress bar (a different progress bar) comes up it shows the current photo number and the total, which is always maxed out at 10000. My media servers houses in excess of 17k photos now. I don't know where the limit of 10k resides, but this is consistent with Viiv, TVersity, and Windows Media Center media servers. The fact that it happens near the 2 minute mark indicates some kind of processing, but of what I have no idea and I can not decern what it is with the data I've sourced or analyzed. Without know how the STB's code works I can not make a clear determination on what the possible issue is, but indexing may be a part of it.
     
  12. veryoldschool

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    ^ dumb question:
    If these were in [sub, smaller] folders, would this change anything?
     
  13. DJPellegrino

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    Or playlists? But I suspect that it may still try indexing the full spectrum.
    Could part of the reason be that these boxes are not fully DLNA compliant at this point? Maybe if compliance happens this issue goes away?
     
  14. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    This is not a dumb question. Yes I have my photos broken up into a tier folder system: My Photos -> Year -> Month

    If I choose say December 2008 to shuffle them all, usually this works without issue. The reason I say usually is because I just ran into a weird situation I will explain down below.

    I have not made a Playlist that is larger than a couple of hundred photos, they have worked in the past on legacy boxes.

    I have never made one bigger than a in the hundreds, I would be willing to try one as large as 10,001 photos, this would be easy to implement, to check for the 10k barrier or limitation it seems to have.

    This is a tough question, since I have no idea about the requiremetns and what goes into programming compliance. Talking to a few folks about the legacy boxes, they seem to think this shouldn't have any impact on it since for the most part the Viiv implementation mirrors DLNA for the most part. I am skeptical however and lean towards making the boxes DLNA compliant and then lets see.

    Back to VOS' question; I have been running the HR24 with January 2009 photos and it is currently stuck on one photo, however the music continues to play (one album on Play All). I have yet to try any buttons since I'm about to enjoy some hot cocoa with the kids and momma after making a huge snowman. :) I will post the issue in the issues thread here shortly. :D
     
  15. veryoldschool

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    Like the 2 TB limit for eSATA, I have to wonder how many users would even find a 10k limit, and what impact changing this would have on "our speed". :shrug:
     
  16. smiddy

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    Since the inception of Media Share I have been over 10,000 photos. I know a few others who've ran into this issue to, but most folks only use several hundred photos. This however should not diminish the fact that it should not lockup as other rendering software applications do not run into this limitation. I can not comment on the eSATA 2 TB limit as it applies to STB since I have never tried to use it. What I do know is there are limitations on formats and then hardware dealing with large sized drives. It has been a while since I wrote an OS (search for SmiddyOS), so my knowledge on these specifications and implementation is a few years old and 2 TB drives where not on the menu at that time. I think I worked on an interface to do IDE and not SATA, but the highlevel hard drive interface should be the same and may be limited due to the driver of the interface, not likely the hard drive itself. I would suspect this is limited within the OS or driver for the hard drive and likely not related to the media share rendering, but this is a guess on my part since I have no idea how it is implemented in these STBs.
     
  17. veryoldschool

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    Some with these drives have seen the DVR start to really bog down as the drive get close to being full.
     
  18. barryb

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    Yes, but I DO NOT have a folder with 10k pictures that I would watch on my TV.

    I tried a folder with maybe 50, then shuffled some music to play along with them, and it worked well.
     
  19. hdtvfan0001

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    Got a nice set of wireless headphones for use with the H24-100 in the Master Bedroom....that way I can watch football at night while Mrs HDTV reads her favorite novel.

    Figured it will also come in handy on download nights as not to disturb anyone.

    Anyway - I connected it to the H24, and it works great. :)
     
  20. Grentz

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    Nice, which ones did you get?
     
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