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Yankees Sign Teixeira

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Steve, Dec 24, 2008.

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  1. txtommy

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    They had several better choices when they hired Lou. Joe G was one of them and in my opinion he would have been a better NL manager than AL because of his style. The Cubs announcer, Bob Brenley, would have been a better choice. Maybe they can swap managers when the Cubs play in the Bronx in early April.
     
  2. Steve

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    But that's my point. When you manage by the #'s, like Torre, it works over the long haul, because in baseball, everyone makes their #'s. E.g., a guy who's hit .300 for the last 5 years and is batting .275 in August is probably gonna hit .340 in Sept and wind up close to .300 again.

    Not so in a short series, or a matchup of a pinch hitter vs. a reliever. I might be 2 for 10 lifetime against a guy, and ultimately end my career 4 for 20 against him, but it's up to the manager to sense when I might get those other 2 hits and bat me anyway. Not sure if I'm making any sense. :) /steve
     
  3. Game Fan

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    Complete sense. Torre was loyal to a fault, sometimes. It's just not the way games are managed anymore. Every situation and prior match up has been analyzed. Whoever has had the most success in the past, gets the chance. The research bears it out or else the teams wouldn't spend the money they do for it.

    The media also has the same information. When a manager does go with his gut feeling, on rare occasion, and it fails, he is crucified by the media and fans. Me included!

    Billy Beane and Theo Epstein were the biggest proponents of gathering and instituting this information and style, so to speak, and now all MLB teams have followed suit.
     
  4. txtommy

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    You make complete sense. Lou has gotten into that numbers thing too often. Too many times this year he'd pull a hot hitter out of the lineup to put in one that had better lifetime numbers against a relief pitcher even though his current streak was 0 for 22. The normal result was an 0 for 23 streak likely via a double-play. Or he'd pull a RH batter to insert a fair LH hitter knowing the other team would swap pitchers and he'd end up changing to a cold RH hitter against a good relief pitcher. Far too many of his swaps made no sense and most just wasted bench players while reducing their odds in the situation.
     
  5. Game Fan

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    :backtotop

    Teixeira is a good player, but no one is worth $180 million. No one!
     
  6. Steve

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    And he's not even the highest-paid player on the team! #$%! Boras... /s
     
  7. jodyguercio

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    And that's been the Yankees biggest problem, no one on the team save the captain has half the heart those guys did.....Torre was extremely loyal to fault as Game fan pointed out....the other thing that the Yankees post 2000 WS champs didnt have was the bullpen that they had been used to.

    And Game Fan you are right, not a single person playing this sport or any other deserves the money they get. They are getting paid to play. Its a game for our entertainment. But this is going to lead to a road that will get this thread closed so Im just going to leave it at that.

    Merry Christmas everyone.
     
  8. mystic7

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    Oh, this is too good. The Yanks make the playoffs 13 years in a row and have one off year where they "only" win 89 games, and they're "losers" who sat at home last October, but the Cubs, for whom making the playoffs 2 years in a row is considered a dynasty, are "the best team in baseball" because their only mistake was being swept by Manny (not the Dodgers, but Manny).

    Man, am I glad I was born in the Bronx, a Yankee fan.
     
  9. hdtvfan0001

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    The Yankees are clearly desperate to get back to winning again...deperate people do desperate things...like sign $10 Million players to contracts 10X what they're worth.

    That concept failed them in the past...time will tell if history repeats itself.
     
  10. txtommy

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    Oh, my, are we touchy? The Yankees probably spent more money in each of those 13 years than the Cubs spent total for the 13 seasons; and to get back to winning their only solution is to again outspend the entire league. Maybe good business but not good sport.

    Sorry to hear you were born in the Bronx. I've had to go there all too many times.
     
  11. hdtvfan0001

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    ....and we're still in the off-season.....wait until game 1 of the 2009 season....it could get ugly....:lol: :lol:
     
  12. Steve

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    I wouldn't bet on that. Cubs had the 5th highest MLB payroll in 2008 at 130 million. Yankees, Red Sox, Mets and Tigers were 1 through 4. Anaheim and LA were 6 and 7. /steve
     
  13. mystic7

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    The Bronx in the 1950's was a great place to live, almost like Wrigleyville today, without the yuppies and wimps.
     
  14. Stuart Sweet

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    There's a thread on this in the sports programming forum, so I'm closing this one.
     
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