http://www.dbstalk.com Discussion forums for satellite TV. en Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:14:50 GMT vBulletin 60 http://images.dbstalk.com/dbs-images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.dbstalk.com http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172466&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:55:02 GMT About 1 1/2 years ago I upgraded the living room TV to HD and got a 612, which had all the features I wanted but found the OTA tuner to be unacceptable compared to the HDTV tuner (swapped cable and... About 1 1/2 years ago I upgraded the living room TV to HD and got a 612, which had all the features I wanted but found the OTA tuner to be unacceptable compared to the HDTV tuner (swapped cable and got markedly different reception). After three replacements, I concluded that the 612 OTA tuner was a poor performer and got an upgrade to 622 at no cost. That was great until the Feb rate increase on HD Duo Receivers. Now I would consider downgrading my 622 to a 612 to reduce my bill but first would like to know if the OTA tuner performance is still poor (OTA tuner wasn't the only problem, but it was the show-stopper). Any feedback will be appreciated. ]]> ViP612/622/722/722K DVR Support Forum TheFoxMan http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172466 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172463&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:12:52 GMT My post in the other thread is not getting answered. Anyone else with issue? I called tech support and they have passed the issue on for further troubleshooting. If this is excluded from the package... My post in the other thread is not getting answered. Anyone else with issue? I called tech support and they have passed the issue on for further troubleshooting. If this is excluded from the package how do you tune to it when I hide SD duplicates. ]]> DIRECTV General Discussion upmichigan http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172463 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172462&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:12:44 GMT I have a question regarding my 722k, which I've had for a couple of months now. I noticed something last night while setting a recording in which the device did not behave as I expected.

I run my 722k in dual mode, with record plus activated and TV2 as the preference. When watching TV1 on my HDTV, if I invoke the guide and select a future program to record, upon completion it schedules the recording to TV2, which is what I expected.

However, when I went to my SDTV (TV2) last night, and invoked the guide and selected a program on Travel HD (ch 215) for recording, it also scheduled for TV2. I would have expected it to schedule on TV1. I had no other timer conflicts going that would have forced it to TV2.

The only solution I thought of would have been to wait until the program began, then started the recording and manually chose TV1 for the recording.

Am I doing something wrong, or is this how it's supposed to behave, or am I missing something in the setup? I would like to, when scheduling a future recording from the guide, be able to choose the tuner. Is this possible?

Any help greatly appreciated, thanks in advance. ]]> ViP612/622/722/722K DVR Support Forum SDWC http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172462 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172461&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:11:40 GMT Saw this on the DTV site:http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global...oternavtype=-1

The cost is $68.99 ]]> DIRECTV Programming bnwrx http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172461 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172460&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:58:32 GMT I read some of the distant networks big thread, sorry if i missed this already being discussed. I find this situation completely intolerable and wonder if anyone else solved it with an insider... I read some of the distant networks big thread, sorry if i missed this already being discussed. I find this situation completely intolerable and wonder if anyone else solved it with an insider contact or some such thing at DirecTV.

Background: before ordering, I called DirecTV customer service and asked if I could submit for DNS approval prior to being under contract. I was told 'yes'. A day or so later, I placed an order for new service and asked the same question again, and informed them that I would cancel the order if DNS approval was not given before installation/activation. Again I was told they could request the approval prior to activation.

Today I called customer service because their DNS request web page was not accepting my account #, and now they tell me that they can't submit for DNS approval until AFTER activation - AFTER I am already bound to the 2 year contract.

Both the big thread here and the DirecTV website suggests that I am eligible -there's no OTA reception and there's no CBS, NBC, nor CW already in the lineup, from anywhere. But I would like someone from DirecTV to go "on the record" about this before I'm bound to a 2 year contract.

So, is there any way to get this answer out of DirecTV prior to activation? At first one of two call centers I spoke with said that the installer could place the request upon activation, while in my home, but when I asked to speak to a local installer, they rescinded that claim. Now all they will say is that I have to ask the local affiliates. The closest CBS affiliate is over 100 miles away and I doubt they would ever see any such request.

I know I can always poll the neighbors, but I'd rather not be a nuisance if I don't have to be...

Thanks all. ]]> DIRECTV General Discussion chouseman http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172460 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172465&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:33:28 GMT If you say $1-2 now it will be $5-7 in 3 years. If you say $5 now, it will be $7.99 in 3 years. *I ALREADY PAY A DVR ACCESS FEE. THEY SHOULD GET $0 MORE FOR MRV!* slippery slope. directv... If you say $1-2 now it will be $5-7 in 3 years.

If you say $5 now, it will be $7.99 in 3 years.

I ALREADY PAY A DVR ACCESS FEE. THEY SHOULD GET $0 MORE FOR MRV!

slippery slope. directv doesn't know when to stop hiking up those rates. funny, I didn't get a raise this year and many lost their jobs and ESPN is justified to raise their rates by $1 a subscriber (or whatever it is)?

Great. I can't wait for the Communistcast/NBC deal to go through, then we'll pay twice that increase for NBC and USA. ]]> DIRECTV General Discussion aa9vi http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172465 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172458&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:05:38 GMT Hey,all, i have decided to go with cable for internet and phone, bye bye Qwest--I was thinking about going with cable now they are fully upgraded and have hd. Is it possible to suspend your account... Hey,all, i have decided to go with cable for internet and phone, bye bye Qwest--I was thinking about going with cable now they are fully upgraded and have hd. Is it possible to suspend your account with E for like 6 months? Only reason why i had dish was for comcast for cubs but now with I phone i can get the games on audio at MLB so dont see need for dish-and we love the radio guys they make the game fun. I just dont think it's worth having dish for one channel. I realize i wont have Sirius but cable uses music choice. Would appreciate any suggestions. Cable also said they would buy out the rest of my contract if i go that route and put the credit on my acct- Max. ]]> General Dish Network™ Discussion max1 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172458 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172457&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:00:19 GMT OK, here is one to file in the WTH just happened category. Turned on the TV to watch the news last evening, and everything is working fine. After a few minutes I notice the receiver (HR20-100) is... OK, here is one to file in the WTH just happened category. Turned on the TV to watch the news last evening, and everything is working fine. After a few minutes I notice the receiver (HR20-100) is totally unresponsive to the remote (RF setup). It is not the batteries as the remote still worked for the TV & audio receiver, but I changed them anyway with no luck. Did every manner of reboot (RBR & unplug), still nothing. No buttons at all on the remote will work.

I go to the bedroom and the HR22-100 is working fine, so I set that one up in the living room. It is OK for a few minutes then its remote (RF) just stops working like the other one.:eek2: I go back to the bedroom and setup the HR20-100, and it still is totally unresponsive to the remote. So now both receivers are stuck on one channel, and I can't even turn them off without unplugging.

I notice the front buttons on the receiver are working, so I go in and reset the remote codes back to as delivered with IR on the HR22-100, and it still doesn't work. At that point I didn't have the energy to spend two hours on the phone with DirecTV, so I decided I would just call in the morning.

About an hour later I was in the bedroom and just punched the remote for the heck of it, and it was now working. I go into the LR and the HR22-100 is still not working. Just for the fun of it I go back to the front buttons to change the remote back to RF, punch the number codes in with the remote that isn't working, and everything comes back to life working just fine.:scratch:

So WTH happened? My first thought was the Russians or Chinese had set off an EM pulse, but that couldn't be it as everything else was still working.:lol: Any thoughts in case it happens again?

ps: I have the remotes marked, so I didn't get them mixed up. ]]> DIRECTV General Discussion http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172457 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172456&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:48:16 GMT I have been interested in MRV since the old DirecTivo series 2 days. Now that we are finally (almost) there, I am wondering if it would be worth the wait for the HR24 or should I upgrade to a... I have been interested in MRV since the old DirecTivo series 2 days.

Now that we are finally (almost) there, I am wondering if it would be worth the wait for the HR24 or should I upgrade to a second HD DVR now?

Other than DECA, what are the big new features of the HR24 and does anyone have a ball park estimate of when it will ship?


Thanks! ]]> DIRECTV HD Receiver Discussion Kapeman http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172456 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172454&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:41:22 GMT I've had the MRV beta service for about a week now. Last night I wanted to watch a show but when I went to the DVR it only showed the DVR that I was watching. Everything is working fine. I have 2 DVR's networked but now when I check the status under Multi Room Viewing it shows that there are no DVR's networked. Any ideas? ]]> DIRECTV HD Receiver Discussion Raider25 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172454 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172453&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:05:58 GMT Just for curiosity's sake and for future information, for those of you with the outboard eSata drives on your DVRs, have they been reliable and worth doing or are there issues with connectability, etc. that might cause you to RBR? I'm just wondering as I am edging toward adding a drive to one of my DVRs because it keeps getting filled up with all of my family's shows they want to watch as well as mine... ]]> DIRECTV HD Receiver Discussion gphvid http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172453 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172450&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:32:33 GMT Here is the recap from tonight's Tech Forum. If you are up to date on the Dish and Sling announcements from CES then you didn't miss much, but here you go.

Tech Chat Recap - 2/8/2010

Hosts: Mark Jackson and Dan Minnick

Started out with small talk about the Superbowl.

Topics for Tonight:

• New Slingbox products unveiled
• Tour of new gadgets at CES
• Best Way to Watch Olympics
• Tips and Tricks for remote scheduling
• Triva, Prizes, and QA

CES 2010:

Dish Network
Chief Marketing Officer - Ira Bahr

• Dish Network TV Everywhere adapter. One USB port into a VIP 722k and you have Sling Capability.
• Dish Network WiFi HD Monitor - HD Picture anywhere in the house with only power and the TV Anywhere adapter on your ViP722k
• Dish Remote Access for iPhone - Showed that you can record shows from the application. I think we've all seen info on this in some form or another. You can search, browse, record, and manage DVR events. Also has remote control capability.

Sling Media
John Paul - SVP

• Slingbox 700U - Worlds smallest slingbox, 10mm high, see through it, single USB cable (aka Dish Network TV Everywhere Adapter)
• Sing Wifi Monitor 150 - 15" High Def, Wifi, Monitor to watch Slingbox streams. (aka Dish Network WiFi HD Monitor)
• Sling Receiver 300 - STB, that allows you to receive Sling HD signal from a Slingbox on another TV.
• Sling Touch Control 100 - Remote Control with the Dish Remote Access built into it. Touch Screen, look at the guide, read more info, select watch and it will tune your receiver to that channel, DVR event, etc ...
• SlingPlayer Mobile - iPhone, Blackberry, Windows Mobile, and Symbian ... 9th top grossing app in the iTunes Store.
• Watch Sling Player on any Adobe Flash compatible device. Example of a network enabled TV with Flash app running SlingPlayer without a standalone box.

Release Dates:

• SB 700U and WiFi Monitor - First Part of this year
• Sling Touch Remote and Sling Receiver 300 - No dates yet

CES Awards:

• Sling Receiver 300 - Innovations 2010 Design and Engineering Award Honoree in Multi Room A/V Category
• Sling Touch Control 100 - Innovation 2010 Design and Engineering Award Honoree in Video Accessories Category

More CES Information:
Tara Dunion - Director, Event PR ,CEA via Skype

• Gave a summary of what the CEA is.
• Followed by a video about CES, not going to go into the details, had nothing to do with Dish Network or Sling.
• Followed by a little Q and A with Tara, talking about CES and CEA, and where to go for more information
  • www.ce.org
  • www.cesweb.org
• Talked about her favorite stuff, mostly TV and mobile devices. They all really like the Sharp Quad Pixel technology and the difference it made

Giveaway Time:
From Tara of CEA: Asus Netbook
Question: What year did CES start?

2010 Winter Olympics Update:
Dish Network's Scott Higgins - What's going on with the Olympics?
Video from Scott about the Interactive Capabilities

• NBC Olympic Showcase with Schedule, Medal Counts, Bios, Highlights, Stories, etc ...
• 6 Screen Coverage
• Starts Feb. 12th
• Press Dish Home Button on your remote
• Listed all the models that supports it, and it's just about everything in the last 10 years.

Tips and Tricks:
Kelly Morales - Technical Operations Manager
Here to talk about the iPhone and Dish Remote Access

• More about how you can browse your guide, DVR list, setup timers, etc ...
• Download from iTunes
• Log into your Account at DishNetwork.com
• Talked about SlingPlayer Mobile, but showed the SlingPlayer for Windows App.
• Listed all the OS's supported, iPhone, Symbian, Windows Mobile, and Blackberry
• Showed the onscreen Remote Control
• Showed that you can create new timers
• Connect your ViP622 (get info) Broadband, allows your manage your recordings and use the remote control
• Without Broadband you are limited to 5 timers you cna manage every 30 minutes

Briefly mentioned a new receiver:
DVR 512 Single TV Dual Tuner SD DVR - Basically a 612 without HD.

Late Breaking News
SlingPlayer for iPhone now works with WiFi AND 3G, not just WiFi. Still waiting on Apple's final approval but any day now. If you've already bought it you'll be able to upgrade for free.

Trivia Question Answer:
1967, CES is 43 years old
Winner: Norris Clessman (sp)

Storage Devices Update:

• Soon removing the 1 TB limit, by the end of March
• Still have a single LUN limit. Basically this means single hard drive, i.e. no multiple hard drive arrays. (Commentary: They pronounced it 'loon'. As a Senior Storage Architect that manages a 17+ PB SAN, I've always pronounced, and heard it pronounced as it looks 'lun', sorry this is driving me nuts, arghhh they keep saying it this way)

Question and Answer Time:

Question: New 211k Receiver, can I make this a DVR?
Answer: Yes, available today, 50GB - 1TB. One Time Fee.

Question: I have a portable Dish 500 Antenna can I use this with my 211k?
Answer: Yes, just be aware without the 129 location you will miss some channels, lots of HD is on 129.

Question: I get freeze frame from wind and ice, anything to take care of this?
Answer: Really it's the clouds/thunderheads, rain might do a little. Check your alignment to make sure it's peaked.

Question: How do I get a new remote?
Answer: Online Support at www.dishnetwork.com. Or give them a call and they can help you as well, 888-333-3474.

Question: Are their free movies and shows on Dish on Demand?
Answer: Yes, access Dish Online and their is some TV entertainment that is free.

Question: Talked about True Volume in the past, is that here yet? And can you activate it?
Answer: That will be in releases that come out in March in the ViP models and will be automatic.

Question: I have no active phone lines can I use my WiFi network?
Answer: Yes, if you have a game adapter you can connect it via ethernet to the STB. Another option is a Homeplug to Ethernet adapter and plug it into an outlet next to your router and run a cat-5 cable to your router.

Question: I would like to add my WD Passport 500GB drive to my receiver?
Answer: Yes (Commentary: I think this may be wrong since the passport is a self powered drive and they haven't worked int the past, take this answer with a grain of salt).

Question: Getting pop-ups on my screen, things changing, how do I fix?
Answer: IR Interference, change your remote to a different address than one

Question: Is there a Dish Network magazine that I can subscribe to?
Answer: Yes, information is at dishentertainmentmag.com. You can also get online programming information at dishnetwork.com

Question: I have a DP34 and 2 DVRs, can I add a 3rd receiver?
Answer: If it's a dual tuner DVR you'd need to add a second DP34 switch

Question: Are you going to make a Blackberry Dish Remote App?
Answer: Not working on one at this time. Haven't had much demand yet.

Question: We have a tuner with dual mode, can I watch dish on another TV in my bedroom? How?
Answer: There is an agile modulator that sends TV2 output to another room, yes you can. May be difficult to install, can call Dish for help or use our web site.

Question: Just hooked up HDTV in bedroom, hooked up to TV2, can I change the Aspect Ratio?
Answer: Yes, TV2 has different Aspect Ratios, use the * key on the remote to toggle.

Question: Boggled about the differences between 1080i and 1080p?
Answer: Both formats are excellent. Typically only notice on the bigger sets, progressive scan rate can be beneficial. Most now are 1080p, little bit of VOD content in 1080p on Dish but that is it.

Dish 722k vs. DirecTV HR21
Marcel Guajardo Product Marketing
Video - Side by Side Comparison ViP722k and HR21 from DirecTV

• Basically an ad about why Dish Network is better than DirecTV
• Better Customer Service
• Now side by side comparison
• Showed PiP features - DirecTV doesn't have it
• LiveTV button to get back quickly to live TV - DirecTV you have to FF to get back
• Dish has Dual Mode, 2 shows in 2 different rooms, share DVR content - DirecTV, you can't do any of that
• EPG, faster, smoother than DirecTV's
• Jumping Ahead in the Scroll Guide by typing in hours - Can't do it on DirecTV
• Skipping Back 10 or forward 30 seconds - DirecTV you have to scroll through.

All Done:
That's it, rebroadcasting all month
Next Charlie Chat March 8th 9:00 E.T. Channel 101 ]]> General Dish Network™ Discussion Rob Glasser http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172450 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172449&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:53:20 GMT i play the wii game nascar cart racing!!!!!!!!!! i play the wii game nascar cart racing!!!!!!!!!! ]]> Gaming Fun - The Other Reality james hyde http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172449 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172448&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:15:42 GMT Hi everyone and thanks for your help, I currently have a cable modem and wireless router upstairs in my house, but I would like to bring it downstairs for a number of reason. I want to set up in... Hi everyone and thanks for your help,

I currently have a cable modem and wireless router upstairs in my house, but I would like to bring it downstairs for a number of reason. I want to set up in my entertainment center and hook it up by splitting/diplexing the cable going to my DISH receiver. I am very unexperienced in these type of matters and would love some help in getting this done correctly!

My dish receiver = VIP 722 DVR - Provides full HD service for my downstairs HDTV and standard definition for an upstairs TV

Currently, the cable comes from the wall, then diplexes (I think) twice as it hooks into the receiver. Here are pictures of the current wiring:


This is the first diplex


This is the 2nd diplex


This is where everything plugs in to the back of the receiver. The VHF/UHF cable from the 1st diplex plugs into the "Home Distribution" slot, The SAT cable from the 1st diplex then diplexes into the "Satellite 1 & 2" cables, which plug into their respective slots.

Here is a very poor diagram

wall cable------Diplex 1>>>>Home Distribution
....................................>>>>Diplex 2>>>>>>Satellite 1
.................................................. .......>>>>>>Satellite 2

My instinct is that I should be able to do this:
wall cable------Diplex 1>>>>NEW DIPLEX>>>>>Home Distribution
.................................................. ..............>>>>>Cable Modem
....................................>>>>Diplex 2>>>>>>Satellite 1
.................................................. .......>>>>>>Satellite 2

Would that work? What kind of Diplex should I use? Or should I used a splitter?

Please help! If anything needs clarification, just respond and let me know.

Thanks!

PS - If these pictures look humongous, I apologize, I don't know how to fix that! ]]> General Dish Network™ Discussion longshot270 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172448 http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172447&goto=newpost Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:15:26 GMT I have a question about signal strength, which satellite a channel is receiving the signal, and the signal meter. I have been assuming a few things that hopefully someone can confirm or set me... I have a question about signal strength, which satellite a channel is receiving the signal, and the signal meter. I have been assuming a few things that hopefully someone can confirm or set me straight.

When you goto a certain channel, press info twice, you will see in the upper left corner a satellite number. This is the satellite that the channel is receiving the signal from correct?
When you goto a certain channel, then go to the signal meter (menu-6-1-1), this meter is testing the signal for the specific satellite and transponder/spotbeam for that channel correct?
This only applies if my assumptions are correct. I have 2 vip622 receivers. If I goto a TV for receiver 1, do one of the above, goto a TV for receiver 2 (and the same channel), shouldn't they show the same satellite # if everything was setup properly?

Reason why I am asking, is I noticed for my local Fox HD channel (and other local hd) will show up on 129 with a puny signal of around 20 whereas as the other receiver will show it at 61.5 with a much better signal around 80. I always have signal issues with rain and recently snow. It seems like one of the receivers looses the signal more quickly and I am wondering if this is a clue why. ]]> General Dish Network™ Discussion bbohl http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=172447