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11-21-02, 04:43 PM
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Specs on Dish PVR 921 and JVC TU-9000 HD PVR's!
I have just received the initial specs of the new Dish Network 921 PVR and the JVC TU-9000 PVR.
The Specs are subject to change and no release date is set.
Specs for the Dish PVR 921
- High definition, two-tuner, PVR satellite receiver
- 250GB or larger hard drive for storage of HDTV & SDTV programming
- 8PSK Compatable
- PIP for standard definition content
- 8VSB Tuner included, for reception of off-air analog/digital
broadcasts
- DVI / HDTV digital interface for connection to an HDTV display
- 1394 iLINK digital interface for connection to a D-VHS
- HD Component Video output for analog connection to an HDTV display
- Future Internet support
- Supports DishPro Technology
Here are the Specs for the JVC TU-9000 PVR
JVC TU-PVR9000
- High definition, two-tuner, PVR satellite receiver
- 8PSK Compatable
- 120GB hard drive for storage of HDTV & SDTV programming
- PIP for standard definition content
- DVI / HDTV digital interface for connection to an HDTV display
- 1394 iLINK digital interface for connection to a D-VHS
- HD Component Video output for analog connection to an HDTV display
- Future Internet support
- Supports DishPro Technology
Remember you heard it here at DBSTalk.COM first. 
Look down a few messages (or click here) to see a Dish Network HD Receiver Compariosn Chart  |
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11-21-02, 04:45 PM
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Estimated price about 1K
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11-21-02, 04:51 PM
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Damn you woman!
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Scott,
They aren't the same unit right? Different hardware?
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11-21-02, 05:01 PM
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They are both manufactured by JVC, but have different feature paks. ETA (my Guess) 1st quarter TU9000, 921 second quarter
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11-21-02, 05:05 PM
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Damn you woman!
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So they could run the same OS then...
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11-21-02, 05:07 PM
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i still like the girl with the bouncing eyeballs best
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11-21-02, 05:57 PM
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I sure hope one or the other allows additional Hard Drives to be added from the start maybe via Firewire. The 250GB drive would be OK for a while, but the 120 is inadequate.
From the specs, the JVC doesn't have the 8VSB capabilty (which I don't need out here in the boonies) but it would need a much bigger or add-on hard drives to get me to buy it.
From my point of view, price is much less important than features or space (within reason, of course).
Jay
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11-21-02, 07:59 PM
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Here is a Chart which shows you all the Dish HD Receivers side by side for comparison.
All's that I can say is... I want one! |
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11-21-02, 08:07 PM
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Sorry Scott, but originally info about 921 and 9000 IRDs was post at TechRetailer site April 18, 2002.  click and see |
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11-21-02, 08:18 PM
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We have known about the 921 for awhile this is true, but these are the first actual specs on the unit.
The pictures that Claude took of the 921 were a mock up version which was thrown together for the team summit.
BTW From what I am told BOTH units look exactly like a Dish 721 unit.
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11-21-02, 08:35 PM
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Damn you woman!
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At least they are saying future on internet capability.  |
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11-21-02, 09:17 PM
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I know that 8PSK is a modulation scheme, but what type of channels/services use 8PSK?
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11-21-02, 09:54 PM
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I bet the price is going to be SCARY!!!!!!!!!
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11-21-02, 10:55 PM
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Damn you woman!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Martyva
i still like the girl with the bouncing eyeballs best
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Can't you guys get over here. You want me to ruin this thread with her picture?
Anyway I think I lost her.  |
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11-21-02, 10:59 PM
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any word on whether 8vsb will NEVER be offered on the 9000? or is it just not being delivered, or offered yet? (basically is it like the 6000 used to be, possible to upgrade in the future?)
also, is that $1k guesstimated for the 9000 or 921?
my personal thoughts...if these are only a few months apart, and a couple hundred dollars apart, than its worth waiting for the 921...especially if networks won't be coming anytime soon dish. If I can save a couple hundred dollars and get ABC,CBS,NBC and FOX through dish...i can see myself not waiting for the 921 since I wouldn't really have to worry about OTA...we'll see i suppose...
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11-22-02, 06:40 AM
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No word on 8VSB for the TU-9000, perhaps I will receive word on if it will it does soon.
I am going to also update a few things on the chart later on today.
No retail price has been mentioned yet. I personally would not be suprised to see the 921 priced at about $1999.
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11-22-02, 07:55 AM
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Damn you woman!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scott Greczkowski
I personally would not be suprised to see the 921 priced at about $1999.
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11-22-02, 08:48 AM
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any idea if the dual-tuner/dual-recording capability will include use of the OAR module? I doubt it will include dual 8VSB tuners BUT recording one OAR channel while recording/viewing a sat channel would be nice...
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11-22-02, 08:50 AM
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You won't be able to record Analog off air channels. But you can record 8VSB off air signals on the 921.
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11-22-02, 09:41 AM
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That JVC model is a little light in the loafers with respect to HD space. 120 gig? I don't know who made that call...
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11-22-02, 09:44 AM
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Quote:
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That JVC model is a little light in the loafers with respect to HD space. 120 gig? I don't know who made that call...
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Probably to keep the price down. I would go for it if the price was right.
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11-22-02, 10:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Scott Greczkowski
You won't be able to record Analog off air channels. But you can record 8VSB off air signals on the 921.
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Interesting that they're not going to include the analog off air channels but they will include 8VSB off air channels. You already have 90% of the components necessary for analog tuning in a 8VSB tuner. The only thing you're really saving money on is the MPEG encoder chip. |
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11-22-02, 10:42 AM
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I think besides the code of the Mpeg Encoding chip, they really want you to buy your locals off satellite then record them off the air. |
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11-22-02, 10:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chris Blount
Probably to keep the price down. I would go for it if the price was right.
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Hmm...let's see....if a true 1080i signal takes up six times the bandwidth of NTSC, then your 120 gig drive is the equivalent of a 20 gig drive in the old DishPlayer.
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11-22-02, 10:58 AM
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I have heard that it might be possible in the future to add hard drives using a USB Hard Drive. If this is true then there is not much of a problem. |
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