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Old 09-21-07, 08:34 PM   #1   |  Link


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Exclamation Okay... more data collecting time: 498/480/481 issues

Okay...
I need some more data collecting....

Please post to this thread you meet all of the following:

1) You have an MPEG-4 ready system... HR20, H20, H21
2) You have B-Band converters INSTALLED, properly and as recommended... (no tricks to defeat diplextor limitations)
3) You have an AT9 (SideCar) or Slimline dish installed
4) If you have a multiswitch... it is a WB68, WB616, or SWM
5) You can get your locals in HD
6) You are having a problem with one of these three channels...
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I need the following information:
1) What system you have (with manufacturer code)
2) Your confirmation that you have double checked the 6 things above, and you have that configuration
3) What DMA you are a part of: AKA, what City are you getting your locals from.
3b) Please update your profile with your actuall city (or post your actual city)

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Old 09-21-07, 08:56 PM   #2   |  Link
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HR20-100 receives channels 480/481, but does not get 498.

1) HR20-100S
2) Connected directly to slimline
3) Mobile/Pensacola DMA.
3b) Pensacola, Fl

My H20-600 in the bedroom gets all 3 channels perfectly.
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I have one HR20-100 and one HR20-700 with a WB68 multiswitch, connected to a Slimline dish. Yes I can confirm that I have checked the 6 items listed. I receive the Fort Myers, FL locals in HD via D*. I cannot see the slide on either of my HR20s on channel 498. No problem on channel 480 or 481.
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1) HR20-100
2) Yes...B-Bands installed properly. No Tricks...direct to HR
3) AT9 (side car)
4)connected to WB68 (thru power passing splitters)
5) Yes....I can get HD locals
6)Yes.... After a reboot the poblem channel bounces between 480-481. One time 480 is good and 481 is bad. Menu restart... it flip flops...no consistency.
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1) HR20-100S (Mexico) 06/06/07
2) Yes...double checked the list
3) Washington DC
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Old 09-21-07, 09:02 PM   #5   |  Link
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1) HR20-700
2) B-Band installed Ch 498/480/481 works
3) AT9
4) No multiswitc
5) Yes all 4 HD locals in LA
6) No
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1. HR20-700
2. Slimline Connected through Zinwell WB616 (50ft run from dish to switch and 50 ft run from switch to HR20.
3. Mobile/Pensacola DMA (Pensacola) Locals are through non diplexed OTA Not available from direct yet.
4. Pensacola FL

I get 480 and 481 indicating BBC working properly. 498 Black Screen
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1) HR20-700
2) B-Band installed Ch 498/480/481 works
3) AT9
4) No multiswitc
5) Yes all 4 HD locals in LA
6) No
DMA: LA
Actual City: Los Angeles

Are you having issues with one of the three channels?
As I am looking just for those that are having problems.
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I have an H20 that everything is fine with. I have an HR20 that seems to be having problems on 480 or 481 depending on which tuner is being used.

I have the AT9, no multi-switch, do receive Atlanta locals. B band converters are installed correctly.
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Sure thing.

1.) HR20-100S. Check.

2.) BBC's are installed. Check.

3.) Slimline dish in the backyard. Check.

4.) Zinwell WB68. Check.

5.) Local Houston channels bright and clear in HD. Check.

6.) Problems? Oh yes.

Specifically, whenever I tune to any of these three channels, the HR20 will either reboot spontaneously or lock up. Sometimes I will get a #771 message before it crashes, but not always. In my playing around this afternoon I have also discovered that satellite 103b in the signal meter will also cause the box to reboot.

Since I've quit playing around with these channels, I have reverted back to the existing HD channels and watched recorded programs and have encountered no problems whatsoever from these activities. The problem has something to do with the new satellite.
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I want to make sure:

Please only those that are having an issue with one of the three channels Post...

And please let me know which channel you are having a problem with.
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Weird issue, if not concidered a problem please delete.
All 3 channels work but there is an issue with 498. Imagine your tv screen cut into 4 equal sections. when I tune to 498 from any station the lower left corner shows a frozen pixilated mess of the previous channel. The other 3 sections show the correct channel 498 "slide show" after 2-3 seconds the problem is gone as the slideshow takes up the whole screen.
1. H20-600
2. BBC installed direct to slimline
3. slimline
4. no multiswitch
5. NYC locals
6. Clifton, NJ 07011
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I want to make sure:

Please only those that are having an issue with one of the three channels Post...

And please let me know which channel you are having a problem with.
One thing that seems to be somewhat common is the problem that I'm having...it's not just one channel or the other. Sometimes it's 480 and sometimes it's 481 apparently depending on the tuner.
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Old 09-21-07, 09:14 PM   #13   |  Link
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HR20-700
BBCs installed
AT9
ZINWELL WB68
Wash. D.C. locals
Live in Fredericksburg Va.

Had 480 & 481 confirmed and got the CONGRATS slide on 498 just a couple of hours ago, now all 3 say" searching for satellite"
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HR20-700
BBCs installed
AT9
ZINWELL WB68
Wash. D.C. locals
Live in Fredericksburg Va.

Had 480 & 481 confirmed and got the CONGRATS slide on 498 just a couple of hours ago, now all 3 say" searching for satellite"

Did you try changing the channel a couple of times and then going back to them?
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dan8379,

YES, tried that a few times.
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#1 HR20-700 & HR20-100
#2 BBC's installed direct to 5lnb Slimline dish
#3 No multiswitch
#4 Knoxville,Tn locals....NON HD
#5 Cumberland Gap,Tn 37724

HR20-700....480...GOOD...481 GOOD...498 GOOD

HR20-100....480...GOOD...481 GOOD...498 BADDD

I have tried rebooting Soft and Hard and it's a NO GO on 498 for HR20-100

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Old 09-21-07, 09:18 PM   #17   |  Link
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1) HR20-100S
2) All 6 items met
(bbc's direct to HR, slimline, wb68, have SD locals thru 72.5 bird and can receive HD locals thru OTA)
3) #76 Springfield, MO/Harrison, AR
3b) Lebanon, MO

480 and 481 are giving correct test. 498 is still black screen

p.s.

Have tried all the different ideas that i have found in the forums earlier today and still black screen
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Old 09-21-07, 09:19 PM   #18   |  Link
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1) Check
2) Check. Had a diplexer on one of my non-HD receivers and removed it. No change in signals on my HD receivers.
3) AT9
4) No switch
5) Check
6) All working except 481 on HR20. H20 is no longer connected, but when I tested yesterday, I got good signals on odd transponders, and no signal on evens.
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I need the following information:
1) HR20-700 & H20-100
2) Check
3) Greenville, SC
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H20-600 - all 3 channels okay first time and each subsequent time.
HR20-700 in bedroom - all 3 channels okay first time and each subsequent time.
HR20-700 in family room - 480, 481 - okay. 498 will not show slide but goes to black screen. I was finally able to make 498 show the slide after some trickplay and other "tricks" and hints given elsewhere on the board. However, after switching away from 498 and back it will always show blank screen until I hit PAUSE or other trickplay button.

All receivers are connected to same WB-68; The HR20s are on nearly identical lengths of RG6 cable (approx. 80 ft. from WB68); The H20 is on a shorter RG6 cable.

New Orleans, LA DMA.

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Okay...
I need some more data collecting....

Please post to this thread you meet all of the following:

1) You have an MPEG-4 ready system... HR20, H20, H21
2) You have B-Band converters INSTALLED, properly and as recommended... (no tricks to defeat diplextor limitations)
3) You have an AT9 (SideCar) or Slimline dish installed
4) If you have a multiswitch... it is a WB68, WB616, or SWM
5) You can get your locals in HD
6) You are having a problem with one of these three channels...
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I need the following information:
1) What system you have (with manufacturer code)
2) Your confirmation that you have double checked the 6 things above, and you have that configuration
3) What DMA you are a part of: AKA, what City are you getting your locals from.
3b) Please update your profile with your actuall city (or post your actual city)

Earl
1. HR20-700 - all B-Bands installed
2. Slimline Dish
3. WB68 switch
4. DMA - Boston receiving all locals
5. Receiving all 3 channels
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Er...what about those of us who do not have HD Locals, so we don't fit that criteria? I fit for everything else though. I am having problems with the gray/black screen on channel 498. 480 and 481 seem to work fine and 499 did when it was up. Here's the filled out info if you want it (otherwise, feel free to delete):

1. HR20-100 AND HR20-700. Both are experiencing the issue.
2. Verified (except for the Local HD as mentioned above).
3. N/A
3b. Etna, Maine (near Bangor).
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1) HR20, 2- H20
2) Yes
3) AT9
4) No Multi-switch 4x4
5) Yes
6) No problems
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1)(1) HR20-700 & (2) H20-600
2) Double Checked and OK!!
3) Atlanta DMA -receive all local in HD!!
3b)Griffin, GA --- DONE!!
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[quote=Earl Bonovich;1141101]Okay...
I need some more data collecting....

Please post to this thread you meet all of the following:

1) You have an MPEG-4 ready system... HR20, H20, H21
2) You have B-Band converters INSTALLED, properly and as recommended... (no tricks to defeat diplextor limitations)
3) You have an AT9 (SideCar) or Slimline dish installed
4) If you have a multiswitch... it is a WB68, WB616, or SWM
5) You can get your locals in HD
6) You are having a problem with one of these three channels...
------------

I need the following information:
1) What system you have (with manufacturer code)
2 - HR20 700s

2) Your confirmation that you have double checked the 6 things above, and you have that configuration
All have been checked, no tricks, no diplexor, Slimline, WB68

3) What DMA you are a part of: AKA, what City are you getting your locals from.
Columbia, SC Only SD locals available for my DMA and are working

3b) Please update your profile with your actuall city (or post your actual city)
Updated

Problems
1st HR20-700 Was getting 498 message this morning, not getting 498 message now. 480 & 481 are fine with both tuners. est 80' cable run from switch.
2nd HR20-700 Was not getting 498 message this morning, now getting 498 message but sometimes have to pause and play to see message. 480 & 481 are fine both tuners. est 40' cable run from switch.

103b signal strength mid to high 90s both tuners. All rev 2 BBCs

Inserted information above

Update 9/22/07 10pm

I can now access the message screen on 498 on both of my HR20 700s. On each, one tuner shows the image immediately & one tuner I have to hit pause then the image comes right up.

Update after 9300 & 9301 Test Channels

Once these test channels started running 498 works on both boxes and both tuners with no problems at all. Even this morning 9/23/07 well after the special test channels were turned off.

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Earl, Since I "think" I fall under a spotbeam for Atlanta - would that matter at all or do I 'have' to be authorized for the locals?

HR20-700 National Release - WB68 - AU9 - 72.5 Connected to Flex Port 1 (SD Locals in Chattanooga) - About 50 feet from Dish to Switch, 15 to reciever.

480 and 481 work fine, 498 is blank with no searching, 499 searched before. I do have an H20 deactivated I have not tried yet - if its worthwile I will do that for you.

I've done the 72/73/498 bouce, reset received and figured it was just a bug and went along my merry way.

Native on or off doesnt help me, nor does cycling the resolution.
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1) Yes; HR20-700
2) Yes and Yes
3) Yes; SlimLine
4) Yes; WB68
5) Yes; but only OTA currently
6) Yes; get "103 BBCs working" on 480 & 481, but just a black/gray screen on 498

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1) HR20-700 [manufacturer code... errr...... ? ]
2) Yes; numerous times
3) Davenport, IA/Quad Cities, IA-IL
4) Muscatine, IA
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