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Old 11-11-07, 06:27 PM   #1   |  Link
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DIRECTV Transponder/Channel Maps: Data of 12/16/07 Including SundayTicket/Superfan

Attached are PDF documents covering the 101, 110 and 119 Satellites:
  1. A listing by Transponder, showing assigned Channels
  2. A listing by Channel, showing the source Transponder
The documents are fully unprotected so you may copy and use the data as you wish.

The Transponder Maps are updated on a monthly basis and will be updated more frequently if there are significant changes.

The 99 and 103 Sat transponders are not included at this time, but we have some very sharp folks working to acquire the transponder data for those new Ka sats. The new Ka data will be included as soon we can! Please stay tuned....
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Updated with 12/16/07 Data

The Transponder Tables have been updated with fresh data, acquired Sunday, 12/16/07.

And yes, we really are working to include all the Ka sat transponders too!!
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What satellite is channel 119 PPV? I do not see it in the charts.
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What satellite is channel 119 PPV? I do not see it in the charts.
Channel 119 PPV, has historically shown up on 101 West, Transponder #30.

So why doesn't 119 show up on this latest data dump? That will take some investigation....
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Boy I wish I had found this yesterday. Nice list. I could not find 627-1 which is MSG's alternate channel for Buffalo Sabres games. Can you provide transponder info for it? I had audio and pixilating issues with it last night and would like to check signal levels.

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Boy I wish I had found this yesterday. Nice list. I could not find 627-1 which is MSG's alternate channel for Buffalo Sabres games. Can you provide transponder info for it? I had audio and pixilating issues with it last night and would like to check signal levels.

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I just got off the phone with DirecTV tech support. She tells me that 654-1 (FSBAHD) is on 99. Couldn't tell me which transponder, though. Was she wrong?
It's frustrating because I get a lot of audio pops/drop outs/studdering and want to know if it's a low transponder signal.
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Does anyone know what satellite and transponder numbers serve the Los Angeles Local channels in HD? I am particularly having problems with channel 9 (KCAL) and 13 (KCOP). When I go to those channels in HD I usually get "Searching for signal on satellite" Sometimes I get a clear HD picture for a while and then it goes out. There is no problem accessing those channels in SD however. Also form time to time those channels will fade (tile) in and out. There is NO weather problem, it is clear with no wind.

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Does anyone know what satellite and transponder numbers serve the Los Angeles Local channels in HD? I am particularly having problems with channel 9 (KCAL) and 13 (KCOP). When I go to those channels in HD I usually get "Searching for signal on satellite" Sometimes I get a clear HD picture for a while and then it goes out. There is no problem accessing those channels in SD however. Also form time to time those channels will fade (tile) in and out. There is NO weather problem, it is clear with no wind.
LA=103(s), tp 21. That tp should be in the 90's. What are your signals like on 103(c)? You may have a dish alignment problem....

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Thanks for the info Stew

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LA=103(s), tp 21. That tp should be in the 90's. What are your signals like on 103(c)? You may have a dish alignment problem....

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I am looking at 62 on tuner 1 and 63 on tuner 2 for 103(s) tp21. My signals are as follows: (Both tuner readings are very close)

103(s) ka
1-6=0
7-8=N/A
9-14=N/A
15=88
16=48
17=88
18-19=0
20=45
21=62
22=0
23=88
24=92
25-32=N/A


99(s) ka
1=89
2=0
3=90
4=0
5=82
6=51
7-32=N/A





Now, my next questions is, how do I get a better signal on 103(s) tp21, without disturbing the strong signals on the three ku satellites, all of which are in the high 90's? I have a five LNB slimline dish from Directv.

Thanks again.

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Better alignment brings stronger signals on all sat's/tp's simultaneously.

Can we have a look at the sig's on 103(c), please?
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LA=103(s), tp 21. That tp should be in the 90's. What are your signals like on 103(c)? You may have a dish alignment problem....

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Didn't the LA DNS mpeg4 hd locals go national recently, meaning they would not be on a spotbeam now?

Wasn't there a message recently on the LA DNS mpeg2 hd channels saying they need to switch to mpeg4 equipment?
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I don't really have a good source on that tp 21; it was just in my notes. From the looks of his spot beam signals, it's no longer accurate, if it ever was. That's why I wanted to see his 103(c)'s so we can get an idea on his alignment.
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Better alignment brings stronger signals on all sat's/tp's simultaneously.

Can we have a look at the sig's on 103(c), please?

Sorry about that Stew.

Ok, 103(c)
1=75
2=81
3=73
4=78
5=81
6=81
7=77
8=79
9=86
10=85
11=83
12=82
13=88
14=88
15-16=N/A
17=89
18-21=N/A
22=85
23-32=N/A

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Certainly not the installer's best day, but those should work without pixelation on the national HD's. Absent some other dish problem, if you wanted to improve on those, you'd have to do it yourself, unless someone has to come out for another reason, because they're considered "acceptable" for the national HD's.

So back to your HD locals problem, now that we know your alignment is not way off. Just thinking out loud, but what you report actually sounds like your dish is out of alignment, not withstanding all of the above. Wondering what better alignment would do, if some of those those LA locals really are on tp 21, which seems a little odd, since for example tp 24 is coming in at 92, and 15, 17, and 23 are at 88.

The LA DMA has a bunch of HD locals. 22 HD's out of 26, excluding the PBS stations. I don't know exactly how many you're suppose to receive in total. It seems odd that your problems are mostly on CH's 9 & 13. What other channels occasionally have problems? All of them? I believe each tp can handle 6 HD signals, so probably you've got some on one tp and some others. Are you up for re-aligning this yourself, or is that an impossibility? As long as you have safe access to your dish, it's no big deal.

Otherwise you can put in for a service call. Are you within the first 90 days since installation of this dish and have you had this problem all along?

BTW, what kind of receiver is this, an H2x or an HR2x, and do you have other receivers experiencing the same problem?
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Certainly not the installer's best day, but those should work without pixelation on the national HD's. Absent some other dish problem, if you wanted to improve on those, you'd have to do it yourself, unless someone has to come out for another reason, because they're considered "acceptable" for the national HD's.

So back to your HD locals problem, now that we know your alignment is not way off. Just thinking out loud, but what you report actually sounds like your dish is out of alignment, not withstanding all of the above. Wondering what better alignment would do, if some of those those LA locals really are on tp 21, which seems a little odd, since for example tp 24 is coming in at 92, and 15, 17, and 23 are at 88.

The LA DMA has a bunch of HD locals. 22 HD's out of 26, excluding the PBS stations. I don't know exactly how many you're suppose to receive in total. It seems odd that your problems are mostly on CH's 9 & 13. What other channels occasionally have problems? All of them? I believe each tp can handle 6 HD signals, so probably you've got some on one tp and some others. Are you up for re-aligning this yourself, or is that an impossibility? As long as you have safe access to your dish, it's no big deal.

Otherwise you can put in for a service call. Are you within the first 90 days since installation of this dish and have you had this problem all along?

BTW, what kind of receiver is this, an H2x or an HR2x, and do you have other receivers experiencing the same problem?


HR21 Receiver.

No other problem channels as of yet, only 9 and 13 in HD.

I can work on the dish with no problem but I don't know which of the three alignments I should work on to correct the problem? I don't want to knock the whole system out of whack. Therefore, would you work on the tilt first for example?

This is the only HD receiver that I have. All others are Standard.


That's why my original question was in regards to which TP served LA channel 9 and 13. I figured I could tweek the dish to improve the signal on that TP to correct the problem hopefully without causing to much disruption to the rest of the system. One of the TP's within 103 or 99 probably serves those channels and is probably one of the ones with a week signal. The trick is narrowing it down.

Again Stew, I appreciate you taking the time to help.

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Again, it doesn't work that way. You don't tweak tp's individually. You align the dish to line up with the satellite arc in the sky. The geometry of the dish and it's LNB's is fixed. So use the the 3 adjustments, EL, AZ. & Tilt, to match that arc precisely.

Please see this post for more information on tweaking your alignment. Be sure and watch the 2006 DirecTV video referred to therein.
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You may be on the outer edge of the LA 103 spotbeam. The SD non network locals are delivered on the 101 LA spotbeam which probabaly has a larger footprint than the 103 spotbeam. Based on your zip code 92363 the Directv web calculator only shows Limited HD Locals. They may be tweaking the spotbeams and so you should call up Directv and complain. Please keep us updated with the progress from Directv.
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I live in the LA area. We get atleast 7 HD locals (2,4,5,7,9,11,13), so if one tp can only handle 6 HD channels, we must have atleast two tps in play. Based on the above discussion, it seems likely that most of the LA HD channels are on tp 21 and ch 9 and 13 are on another tp. My 103(s) signal strengths are 100 on tps 6, 16, 19, 20 and 21 (I did tweek the dish alignment myself with my wife monitoring the signal strengths on the TV and relaying the values over the phone as I tweeked). I assume the other 100's are spot beams from other nearby cities (such as San Diego).

Since you are about 200 miles from LA, you probably won't get the LA signals as strong. But you should have some 90's from Phoenix locals (Las Vegas HD Locals are on 99), so your dish is not optimally aligned. You should have a good chance at getting 9 and 13 by fine tuning your dish alignment. We really need someone from the Needles area to reply to be sure.
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Because of trees near his home, a friend can see all sats well except 119. If he doesn't want the Spanish language channels, is it safe to assume he'll still get all the MPEG-4 equivalents of the HD channels in the 70's and 80's that are now broadcast from 119 in MPEG-2 HD? /steve
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Because of trees near his home, a friend can see all sats well except 119. If he doesn't want the Spanish language channels, is it safe to assume he'll still get all the MPEG-4 equivalents of the HD channels in the 70's and 80's that are now broadcast from 119 in MPEG-2 HD? /steve
There are no mpeg4 simulcasts of the mpeg2 hd channels, yet. eventually the mpeg2s will be turned off in favor of mpeg4 hds. It is starting with the West Coast DNS locals.

If your friend can't see 119, he will lose any programming that comes from 119.
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There are no mpeg4 simulcasts of the mpeg2 hd channels, yet. eventually the mpeg2s will be turned off in favor of mpeg4 hds. It is starting with the West Coast DNS locals.

If your friend can't see 119, he will lose any programming that comes from 119.
Thanks, so assuming he gets the MPEG-4 locals, which he will, he's basically going to lose ES2H and HDNet until they move to MPEG-4, if I'm reading the list correctly.
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Program guide data also comes from 119 (in addition to 101). There are conditions under which a receiver tuned to an mpeg4 channel needs the 119 data stream, and if you can't see 119 you could run into situations where you lose guide data.

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Program guide data also comes from 119 (in addition to 101). There are conditions under which a receiver tuned to an mpeg4 channel needs the 119 data stream, and if you can't see 119 you could run into situations where you lose guide data.

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Ouch! That sounds like a show-stopper, then. /steve
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