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CES2008: AM21 - ATSC Tuner Add-On for the HR21
Here is the official information for the AM21...
Product brochure: Thanks to Ratara for scanning in all the brochures
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01-07-08, 11:57 PM
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HDMI cable? What is that for?
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01-08-08, 12:14 AM
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man... that thing looks good... kudos directv...
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01-08-08, 12:53 AM
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HDMI cable? What is that for?
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Typo, should say USB.
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01-08-08, 01:01 AM
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The current pricing information we have from Robert at Valueelectonics is that the MSRP will be $59.
The AM21 is expected to be GA at the end of February.
And it will work on the H21, tho not immediately. A new software release cycle will be needed for the H21 family.
I don't know about the HR20 yet.
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01-08-08, 01:18 AM
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With the AM21's dual tuners, will a HR21/AM21 combo allow the user to record 4 programs at the same time (2 Sat and 2 OTA) or will it be just like the HR20, where one could record 2 programs and watch a 3rd (providing all 3 programs are not all SAT or OTA)?
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01-08-08, 01:20 AM
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You've got to hand it to them, they made a smart decision with the hr21 and this thing. They solved their problem perfectly. If you want/need OTA, then pay for it.
I'm impressed too, the solution looks good and is pretty seemless.
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01-08-08, 01:20 AM
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It will be just like an HR20, only 2 items recording plus a DoD download at the same time.
The AM21/HR21 menus will even look more like the HR20s.
Cheers,
Tom
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01-08-08, 01:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Robertson
It will be just like an HR20, only 2 items recording plus a DoD download at the same time.
The AM21/HR21 menus will even look more like the HR20s.
Cheers,
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To add: I was also told today the AM21 uses an entirely new chipset to that of the HR20 and H20 line. Although I have not confirmed. I wanted to but was afraid they'd kick me out of the booth if I tried to open the AM21. 
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01-08-08, 01:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Robertson
The current pricing information we have from Robert at Valueelectonics is that the MSRP will be $59.
The AM21 is expected to be GA at the end of February.
And it will work on the H21, tho not immediately. A new software release cycle will be needed for the H21 family.
I don't know about the HR20 yet.
Cheers,
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That price point sounds right.
I hadn't heard the $59 MSRP today but was reassured it would be sub $100.
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01-08-08, 02:24 AM
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I was hoping for something bigger.
Yeah, looks great, but WAY too big for what it does.
Like the price though. Seems pretty cheap actually.
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01-08-08, 02:29 AM
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I'm suspecting most of the space is to make a unit that compliments the H21/HR21 nicely.
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01-08-08, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Robertson
I'm suspecting most of the space is to make a unit that compliments the H21/HR21 nicely.
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From working with retail stores I can tell you that most folks like something that's stackable. Since it follows the same form factor as the HR21 it can be easily paired and displayed in any Home Theater rack.
Now all DirecTV has to do is add rack ears to the HR21 and AM21 boxes. 
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01-08-08, 02:35 AM
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Here's a PDF I just scanned in for you guys  ..
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01-08-08, 02:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Robertson
I'm suspecting most of the space is to make a unit that compliments the H21/HR21 nicely.
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Yeah, I see the point of that. I thought it was a lot taller than 1" judging by the pic. Guess I should actually read the specs before complaining 
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01-08-08, 03:08 AM
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I wonder if you could use one of those $40 coupons that the government is going to give out when buying the AM21.
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01-08-08, 03:09 AM
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It is pretty huge, but that $59 would help a lot. I smell a $99 price though. But it would be way smart of DTV to sell at cost, or a little above. At $59, it would go a long way to diffuse the reasonable argument that "why should I have to pay extra for what the HD-LIL or especially the HR20 folks get for free?". I hope this doesn't mean they are immediately discontinuing the HR20 swapouts!
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01-08-08, 04:01 AM
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With all that space it would be cool if they could add a cooling fan also to help cool the HR21.
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01-08-08, 05:37 AM
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I wonder if you could use one of those $40 coupons that the government is going to give out when buying the AM21.
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The NTIA's list of "Authorized Coupon Eligible Converter Boxes" appears here. The Echostar TR-40 appears on the list, but it's more of a standalone converter. If the AM21 only works as an add-on to the HR20/HR21, the NTIA may not approve it for coupon reimbursement.
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01-08-08, 05:46 AM
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Wonder if it will work as tuners for a windows MCE configuration?
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01-08-08, 06:33 AM
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Thumbs up to DirecTV for this unit.
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01-08-08, 06:47 AM
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Very nice work DirecTV, this looks to be an excellent piece of equipment!
Excellent reporting to the DBSTalk crew, thanks for your efforts!
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01-08-08, 06:56 AM
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how will the am21 connect to the hr21?
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01-08-08, 07:00 AM
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I think like an engineer
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how will the am21 connect to the hr21?
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USB
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01-08-08, 07:00 AM
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I think like an engineer
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I wonder if you could use one of those $40 coupons that the government is going to give out when buying the AM21.
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It will not, as it is an add-on to a system that is not eligible for the coupon.
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