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Message from DirecTV about HD MPEG 2 to MPEG 4 transition
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Customers with HD DNS channels will start to see crawls on their HD DNS channels starting Wednesday. These are intended to communicate to MPEG2 customers the urgency of them needing to switch out their MPEG2 hardware to MPEG4 hardware.
The crawls will appear at the top of each hour initially and may be throttled up depending on how many customers react and how quickly.
The crawl will have a message something like this “THIS CHANNEL WILL BE MOVING. PLEASE TUNE TO CHANNEL 85 FOR MORE INFORMATION.”
It will direct customers to channel 85 which will explain the need for a 5 LNB dish, and a MPEG4 HD receiver.
The slide will ask customers to view:
New Lineup:
CBSWHD – Channel 391
NBCWHD – Channel 393
ABCWHD – Channel 397
FOXWHD – Channel 399
If the customer receives an error message or searching for satellite, they will need to call for the upgrade.
The message is directed for customers in the Western Half of the United States right now in order to migrate these folks to MPEG4 and reclaim that MPEG2 bandwidth.
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01-14-08, 04:14 PM
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Kudos DirecTV, you have to start somewhere.
Thanks for the information Chris.
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01-14-08, 04:16 PM
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Since those receiving the HD DNS feeds are a small subset of those with legacy HD equipment, it makes sense to start the push there.
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01-14-08, 04:18 PM
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Since those receiving the HD DNS feeds are a small subset of those with legacy HD equipment, it makes sense to start the push there.
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Agree.
Any word on when they plan to notify the Sunday Ticket subs as I expect they're next? After the Eastern DNS region of course. 
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01-14-08, 04:26 PM
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Dumb question
does this mean that these channels well be moving to the 390's for everyone?
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01-14-08, 04:27 PM
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does this mean that these channels well be moving to the 390's for everyone?
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Yes, all DNS channels will be moving to a conus MPEG4 transponder on 103b(103c on some receivers).
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01-14-08, 04:28 PM
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Yes, all DNS channels will be moving to a conus MPEG4 transponder on 103b(103c on some receivers).
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01-14-08, 04:29 PM
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does this mean that these channels well be moving to the 390's for everyone?
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This only applies to people that live in areas NOT covered by locals in HD and that currently get ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX in HD on the channels located in the 80's. Not a dumb question at all.
You're SF locals are on 2, 4, 5, 7, 11, etc... Those do not change.
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01-14-08, 04:32 PM
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Urgency? what ever they did last week has rendered my box useless NOW.
I wish I could see a crawl. I was getting the mpeg2 -HD channels just fine. When the guide data disappeared on my LG LSS-3200A I hit the reset button and now I can't even get the box to set the channels.
What ever you do, don't disconnect the power or hit the reset button on any of the older HD boxes.
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01-14-08, 04:40 PM
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Urgency? what ever they did last week has rendered my box useless NOW.
I wish I could see a crawl. I was getting the mpeg2 -HD channels just fine. When the guide data disappeared on my LG LSS-3200A I hit the reset button and now I can't even get the box to set the channels.
What ever you do, don't disconnect the power or hit the reset button on any of the older HD boxes.
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That is different, and unrelated to this.... It is a guide data issue... that DirecTV is working on.
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01-14-08, 04:43 PM
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I'm glad DIRECTV is being proactive on this ... Good move.
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Should this be a sticky for now?
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01-14-08, 04:45 PM
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Should this be a sticky for now?
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Good idea
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01-14-08, 04:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Earl Bonovich
That is different, and unrelated to this.... It is a guide data issue... that DirecTV is working on.
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OK, I can appreciate that, but any of us still holding on to our mpeg2 HD equipment need to get with the program. Suppose I'm going to have to get rid of my bell bottom jeans too.
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01-14-08, 04:56 PM
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01-14-08, 05:08 PM
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Any word on when they plan to notify the Sunday Ticket subs as I expect they're next? After the Eastern DNS region of course. |
Would expect that D11 needs to be in orbit before 100% confirmation of NFL ST in MPEG4 ...
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Would expect that D11 needs to be in orbit before 100% confirmation of NFL ST in MPEG4 ...
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Ah yes, D11 is still on the ground?
Forgot about it. It's like the "red headed step child" of the DirecTV fleet.
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01-14-08, 05:22 PM
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So when does the channels in the 390's start? I assume they are the MPEG4 versions of the channels in the 80's.
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01-14-08, 05:35 PM
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Supposed I'm going to have to get rid of my bell bottom jeans too.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Blount
Got this from DirecTV:
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Customers with HD DNS channels will start to see crawls on their HD DNS channels starting Wednesday. These are intended to communicate to MPEG2 customers the urgency of them needing to switch out their MPEG2 hardware to MPEG4 hardware.
The crawls will appear at the top of each hour initially and may be throttled up depending on how many customers react and how quickly.
The crawl will have a message something like this “THIS CHANNEL WILL BE MOVING. PLEASE TUNE TO CHANNEL 85 FOR MORE INFORMATION.”
It will direct customers to channel 85 which will explain the need for a 5 LNB dish, and a MPEG4 HD receiver.
The slide will ask customers to view:
New Lineup:
CBSWHD – Channel 391
NBCWHD – Channel 393
ABCWHD – Channel 397
FOXWHD – Channel 399
If the customer receives an error message or searching for satellite, they will need to call for the upgrade.
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Thanks for the info. Chris! I have had all the new equipment since the launch and I have just got the phone call stating that I needed to upgrade my equipment to see the new HD!
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Ah yes, D11 is still on the ground?
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Yep, D11 sittin in California awaiting Sea Launch to launch Thuraya 3 satellite tomorrow ... then ~60 days to D11 launch ... then about 30-60 days until D11 "live" ...
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I'm on the east coast, so any idea when they will start this for us?
And, I assume that the 39x channels will go live before the 8xs go dark.
I have the HR20 so I'm set, but I like having the HR10 for recording conflicted HD. Guess I may have to work a deal with my HR10 for an HR2x when that time comes.
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Fine, now get your MDU customers their hardware, yesterday.
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Cool. Let the transition begin.
Any idea if they are going to mirror the MPEG2 feeds to the 390's for the time being, like they did with HD Theater, TNT, ESPN, etc?
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