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03-17-08, 04:57 PM
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DBSTalk.com First Look: AM21; OTA Add-On for the HR21
DBSTalk presents our First Look at the AM21.... The ATSC/OTA Add-On for the HR21 DVR.
DBSTalk's First Look
Thank to all that worked on the First Look and were part of the field trials.
Some Quick Notes:
The AM21 has NOT been released yet for public sale, there is no official date set.
The CSR Tier is not taking order for the AM21, nor do they have any more additional information on it.
For those that wish to discuss with the field testers, about the AM21... check out the Cutting Edge Forum.
http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=123013
Once we have heard that it has been released for shipping and sale, we will make an announcement in the forum.
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03-17-08, 05:06 PM
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nice work as usual earl
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03-17-08, 05:06 PM
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I think like an engineer
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nice work as usual earl
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03-17-08, 05:18 PM
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nice job on the first look guys!!
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03-17-08, 05:20 PM
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I think like an engineer
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Originally Posted by tyler_9110
When will it be available to buy? I know you can pre-order it, but when will it start shipping?
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Please read the first post of this thread.
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03-17-08, 05:37 PM
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the man that was in charge of my case, not a csr, said he was told end of march to early april, but take it with the grain of salt
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03-17-08, 05:40 PM
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i think on Page 5 under "SETUP" the line should read, "Once all connectors are in place, connect the power cable from the HR21 to the wall power outlet (or whatever, not the AM21)"
The way it currently reads, you plug the AM21 into the HR21 and then you plug the HR21 into the AM21. Right?
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03-17-08, 05:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peters4n6
i think on Page 5 under "SETUP" the line should read, "Once all connectors are in place, connect the power cable from the HR21 to the wall power outlet (or whatever, not the AM21)"
The way it currently reads, you plug the AM21 into the HR21 and then you plug the HR21 into the AM21. Right?
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Confusing but correct.
Uplug the HR21
Plug AM-21 into HR21
Plug power cord previously removed from HR21 into AM21.
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03-17-08, 05:48 PM
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Very well done as usually thanks all that were involved
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03-17-08, 05:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peters4n6
i think on Page 5 under "SETUP" the line should read, "Once all connectors are in place, connect the power cable from the HR21 to the wall power outlet (or whatever, not the AM21)"
The way it currently reads, you plug the AM21 into the HR21 and then you plug the HR21 into the AM21. Right?
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The power cord that is currently plugged into the HR21 does get plugged into the AM21... and the AM21 has a 'jumper' that connects to the HR21...
Pretty cool design actually... that way, you don't have to run another cord....
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03-17-08, 05:52 PM
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Yes, it's a great design. Very convenient to set up. The biggest challenge was actually whether to put the AM21 on top or under the HR21! 
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03-17-08, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertE
Confusing but correct.
Uplug the HR21
Plug AM-21 into HR21
Plug power cord previously removed from HR21 into AM21.
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I get it now. The first step is to remove the power cable from the back of the HR21...not disconnect the HR21 from your power source.
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03-17-08, 06:00 PM
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Nice work test team... Any notes on multi path performance?
On par with the HR20-700 or improved?
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03-17-08, 06:01 PM
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Does it work with the H21 also?
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03-17-08, 06:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ziltomil
Does it work with the H21 also?
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Not yet but I believe it is suppose too. The H21 needs the software still.
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03-17-08, 06:03 PM
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Nice work test team... Any notes on multi path performance?
On par with the HR20-700 or improved?
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In my case its at least as good as the HR20s. I don't suffer from multipath where I am, all the towers are pretty much in the same spot, so...
I would say from knowing what others have reported, that I would say its safe to say that it is better than the HR20s in both multipath and overall reception.
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03-17-08, 06:07 PM
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I would say from knowing what others have reported, that I would say its safe to say that it is better than the HR20s in both multipath and overall reception.
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That is great news. Thanks for the update.
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03-17-08, 06:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Radio Enginerd
Nice work test team... Any notes on multi path performance?
On par with the HR20-700 or improved?
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I don't have any multi-path issues.
I do, in fact, have better reception then I do on my HR20-700.
Mike
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03-17-08, 06:21 PM
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Nice job guys (and nice photos Earl).
Looks like a winner.
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03-17-08, 06:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MicroBeta
I don't have any multi-path issues.
I do, in fact, have better reception then I do on my HR20-700.
Mike
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same here
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03-17-08, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Earl Bonovich
Please read the first post of this thread.
Aka... we don't have a date yet.
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I know we don't know a release date or certain price yet, but do we know if this will be a purchase or lease...just curious?
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03-17-08, 07:09 PM
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Nice job fellas.
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03-17-08, 07:26 PM
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What compression, if any, is used
If you record a local HD program off air, do you know what compression is applied by the HR-21? This would go toward figuring out how many hours of HD (or SD for that matter) programming one could store when recording OTA.
Thanks in advance for any info....
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03-17-08, 07:28 PM
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Quote:
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I don't have any multi-path issues.
I do, in fact, have better reception then I do on my HR20-700.
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I can say the same thing about mine.
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- HR20-700 [HDMI] x2
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03-17-08, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bimplebean
If you record a local HD program off air, do you know what compression is applied by the HR-21? This would go toward figuring out how many hours of HD (or SD for that matter) programming one could store when recording OTA.
Thanks in advance for any info....
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Same amount of space is taken up as an OTA recording on an HR20. That would mean Mpeg2.
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