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DIRECTV2PC Discussion and Troubleshooting
I've split off all troubleshooting posts from the first look and put them here. Please use this thread to help each other through issues.
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10-21-08, 02:15 PM
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No Servers found
I have 2 HD DVR's but I'm getting the no servers found messege. Do I have to wait until friday to get an CE update or will there be a release prior to friday to activate the server? Any ideas how to correct this issue?
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10-21-08, 02:20 PM
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Don't think I am going to be able to use it. My Dell 2405FPW doesn't support HDCP.  |
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10-21-08, 02:22 PM
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HDCP display requirement
The HDCP display requirement seems a high hurdle to meet. The only one I have is my 50" Sammy but that is already connected to my HR20. My main PC has a 24" display connected via DVI but I doubt it is HDCP.
I don't see the point of this offering with such high requirements. It is obviously much, much cheaper to add more D* receivers than new HDCP compliant video cards and displays.
Before you make the plunge, don't believe the Nvidia cards listed are HDCP no matter what they say. I built a Blu-ray HDCP compliant PC and all the Nvidia cards I tried, failed. The ATI 3650 I settled on passes Cyberlinks BD Advisor test and the D* Advisor posted today. It's a P4 with XP and passes while my Core-duo Vista Ultimate box fails the video.
If you want to read up on HDCP read the following link. Short version is it is a DRM scheme that screws the consumer by making them buy all new equipment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP
D* TP31 is beaming Firmware 0x0290 right now (noonish). The current release is normally on TP25 and the CE on TP24. Maybe a download can be forced right now. |
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10-21-08, 02:32 PM
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The HDCP display requirement seems a high hurdle to meet. The only one I have is my 50" Sammy but that is already connected to my HR20. My main PC has a 24" display connected via DVI but I doubt it is HDCP.
I don't see the point of this offering with such high requirements. It is obviously much, much cheaper to add more D* receivers than new HDCP compliant video cards and displays.
Before you make the plunge, don't believe the Nvidia cards listed are HDCP no matter what they say. I built a Blu-ray HDCP compliant PC and all the Nvidia cards I tried, failed. The ATI 3650 I settled on passes Cyberlinks BD Advisor test and the D* Advisor posted today. It's a P4 with XP and passes while my Core-duo Vista Ultimate box fails the video.
If you want to read up on HDCP read the following link. Short version is it is a DRM scheme that screws the consumer by making them buy all new equipment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP
D* TP31 is beaming Firmware 0x0290 right now (noonish). The current release is normally on TP25 and the CE on TP24. Maybe a download can be forced right now. |
An analog VGA connection will work. |
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10-21-08, 02:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schneid
The HDCP display requirement seems a high hurdle to meet. The only one I have is my 50" Sammy but that is already connected to my HR20. My main PC has a 24" display connected via DVI but I doubt it is HDCP.
I don't see the point of this offering with such high requirements. It is obviously much, much cheaper to add more D* receivers than new HDCP compliant video cards and displays.
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It's not that they *want* to have high requirements, it's just the nature of the technology.
By the way, pretty much any decent flat screen monitor you buy for a computer nowadays is HDCP compliant as are pretty much any video cards, even cheapo ones (at least from ATI). I can run this on my wife's old PC with a 4 year old ATI card. Won't do HD (processor is only a 2.8 ghz) but it'll run SD just fine.
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10-21-08, 02:35 PM
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Don't think I am going to be able to use it. My Dell 2405FPW doesn't support HDCP. |
Dang! 24 inches and you can't use it for Blu-ray or DirecTV2PC. 
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10-21-08, 02:35 PM
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Not having issues. I think I just missed the cut... Pentium D 830 3.0Ghz Maybe D* could lower the system requirements a bit for those of us not paying the Vista performance tax.
My machine shipped in January of 2006. If yours is older, we are probalby in the same boat. No DTVPC for us.
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10-21-08, 02:38 PM
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Not having issues. I think I just missed the cut... Pentium D 830 3.0Ghz Maybe D* could lower the system requirements a bit for those of us not paying the Vista performance tax. |
Again, it's just the technical limitation of the way the technology works. Not really anything DirecTV can do to lower the requirements. Pretty much need a dual core with a pretty recent video card in the last year. Playing Blue Ray takes a LOT of resources for a computer to run. DirecTV can't change that. 
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10-21-08, 02:43 PM
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Playing Blue Ray takes a LOT of resources for a computer to run. DirecTV can't change that. |
I can play BluRay. |
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10-21-08, 02:48 PM
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Any word on a Mac version? I have newer Macs.
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I haven't tried it but if you ran Parallels, VMWare, or Boot Camp you could probably run DIRECTV2PC under Windows. However, I've heard no plan for a Mac version. I do know some people at DIRECTV who really like their Macs though, so it's not impossible.
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10-21-08, 02:52 PM
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Anyone know the total size of the download?
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10-21-08, 02:53 PM
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Anyone know the total size of the download?
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It is 31.4 MB
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10-21-08, 02:54 PM
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It is 31.4 MB
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Thanks. I'm close.  |
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10-21-08, 02:55 PM
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very good. now i can get on my laptop.
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10-21-08, 03:00 PM
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Quote:
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The HDCP display requirement seems a high hurdle to meet. The only one I have is my 50" Sammy but that is already connected to my HR20. My main PC has a 24" display connected via DVI but I doubt it is HDCP.
I don't see the point of this offering with such high requirements. It is obviously much, much cheaper to add more D* receivers than new HDCP compliant video cards and displays.
Before you make the plunge, don't believe the Nvidia cards listed are HDCP no matter what they say. I built a Blu-ray HDCP compliant PC and all the Nvidia cards I tried, failed. The ATI 3650 I settled on passes Cyberlinks BD Advisor test and the D* Advisor posted today. It's a P4 with XP and passes while my Core-duo Vista Ultimate box fails the video.
If you want to read up on HDCP read the following link. Short version is it is a DRM scheme that screws the consumer by making them buy all new equipment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP
D* TP31 is beaming Firmware 0x0290 right now (noonish). The current release is normally on TP25 and the CE on TP24. Maybe a download can be forced right now. |
My slingbox works fine.. Can view anything and can do it over the internet.
Just as cheap as a card and display that can run this.. I don't get it.. |
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10-21-08, 03:01 PM
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Anyone know the total size of the download?
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31.4 MB took about 21 minutes to download for me
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10-21-08, 03:07 PM
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My slingbox works fine.. Can view anything and can do it over the internet.
Just as cheap as a card and display that can run this.. I don't get it..
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Does your slingbox let you view HD programming at the same resolution as your TV? (I know mine doesn't.) Does your slingbox let you watch something different than what is being shown on the TV?
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HDCP shouldn't prevent you from viewing most content. It only seems to actually be required for DoD content at least so far. I've got a fairly old 20inch dell lcd that doesn't support hdcp and it only complains when I try to play DoD content.
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10-21-08, 03:10 PM
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I dont know about Wireless N being some huge requirement because i am using G and streaming HD works fine. nice write up
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How long does it take to get a Serial Number from Cyberlink?
Were they expecting my DirecTv account or something other than just my name and email address?
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The file size I got is 32,969,768
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10-21-08, 03:12 PM
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How long does it take to get a Serial Number from Cyberlink?
Were they expecting my DirecTv account or something other than just my name and email address?
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~ 10 min [but they maybe getting swamped right now]
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Does your slingbox let you view HD programming at the same resolution as your TV? (I know mine doesn't.) Does your slingbox let you watch something different than what is being shown on the TV?
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Thanks a bunch Earl!!
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How long does it take to get a Serial Number from Cyberlink?
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I got mine within 5 minutes after the d/l completed. The d/l was quite slow however.
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