DISH Network's Remote DVR Scheduling Now Available Via Satellite

[Jason Nipp]

DISH Network’s DVR scheduling service, which we launched in May, now offers remote scheduling via satellite. As you might recall, when DISH Remote Access came out, it worked for customers who had their ViP HD DVR receiver connected to broadband. Now we’re offering satellite-based timers, which let customers schedule a recording via the satellite antenna – without having their receiver connected to the Internet.

This new feature allows significantly more DISH customers access to remote scheduling, as it not only works with our ViP HD DVR suite of receivers, but also our 522 and 625 standard definition DVRs.

Something to keep in mind: satellite timers are one-way communication, so naturally the capabilities are a bit more limited. While customers cannot fully access and manage their DVRs like they can via a broadband connection, they can make new recording requests, which is one of the most popular features of DISH Remote Access.

[Kent Taylor]

Where does one find more information on this? Their web site doesn't appear to know anything about it.

[dragon342]

Originally Posted by Kent Taylor

Where does one find more information on this? Their web site doesn't appear to know anything about it.

Check the dish website, It's names dish remtoe access phase 2!!

[CABill]

Just a login to my account shows the link to Remote Access at the top of Account Info. I tried one for the Raider game on Sunday. It created a manual timer on channel 8631 (SD), but that was only created on a 622 I happened to activate yesterday, not on the 722 I normally use. No Ethernet connection to either. Timer shows up as Priority 1 manual but displays a date of Tue 11/22. It is probably just a day of week display issue AFAICT because the guide for Sunday shows a W where TV1/TV2 would appear on the 22nd.

Odd that it picked only the 622, and I can't select the HD version of the show.

[harsh]

Originally Posted by Kent Taylor

Where does one find more information on this? Their web site doesn't appear to know anything about it.

It was a major topic of the recent Technical Chat.

If you have specific questions, there's probably someone here that can answer them.

[Kent Taylor]

Originally Posted by dragon342

Check the dish website, It's names dish remtoe access phase 2!!

Oh, I was trying "remote" access, not "remtoe" access.

[Kent Taylor]

I assume that you have to ignore the fact that it indicates a broadband connection is required?

[GrumpyBear]

Originally Posted by Kent Taylor

I assume that you have to ignore the fact that it indicates a broadband connection is required?

Yes, you still need broadband. YOU can get broadband via Satelitte.
I am currently in Idaho, and here I have HughesNet, and Dish.sling hasn't worked with HughesNET, for the ViP722 and ViP622 here, or to allow me to access the ViP 722 and ViP622 back at Carlsbad, CA, latency issues.

Just tried it, and I NOW have access to Carlsbad DVR's, setup recordings and even change live TV, and I can access,shows that are already recorded on them. Here in Idaho, I can set up recordings, and have full access to the guide, for them.

I do not have access to whats on my DVR's here in Idaho, and I can't use the guide so far to change the channel, like I do down south. Setting up Recordings works just fine, on both DVR's.

[CABill]

Originally Posted by Kent Taylor

I assume that you have to ignore the fact that it indicates a broadband connection is required?

You can ignore most of the answers in FAQ - they pertain to the previous incarnation. Broadband isn't required - you could use dial up on a laptop and reach the DISH web site (and wait for the damn Flash) and schedule a recording. You do need Broadband to select Rec 1 or Rec 2, and lots of other stuff. Just a plain vanilla I want to record X doesn't need Broadband to the receiver at all. To do sophisticated stuff, you need an Internet connection to the receiver.

[Kent Taylor]

Originally Posted by CABill

You can ignore most of the answers in FAQ - they pertain to the previous incarnation. Broadband isn't required - you could use dial up on a laptop and reach the DISH web site (and wait for the damn Flash) and schedule a recording. You do need Broadband to select Rec 1 or Rec 2, and lots of other stuff. Just a plain vanilla I want to record X doesn't need Broadband to the receiver at all. To do sophisticated stuff, you need an Internet connection to the receiver.

I don't have broadband and I'm able to select the receiver on which to schedule recordings. I can't choose a nickname because it indicates that my receivers aren't connected. Probably other stuff as well but it's a nice feature.

[CABill]

You encouraged me to try again. I assume your nickname problem is "Unknown Error occured" - that's what I get when I try to set a nickname. I can make do with their R00 numbers, but can't find anything to specify which to use. There is a lot in Preferences (but priority, early, & late don't apply to the timer created).

Where are you picking which receiver to record to?

I've got over a dozen 802.11 antennae on the roof (plus some 5.8GHz wireless broadband), but neither receiver has an ethernet connection. Clearly, it would work better if I ran Cat5 to them. But the thread is about Scheduling w/o Ethernet connected. I bet that would work a LOT better than this. I just tried to set a timer for USA - 8PM PST Thank you for smoking (just whatever was on the top of the grid). I couldn't pick the 722. Timer in the 622 lists "Monday, 0" instead of "Wed, 18-Nov" with a start and end time of midnight. Can't find it anywhere in the guide though.

[Kent Taylor]

Originally Posted by CABill

Where are you picking which receiver to record to?.

Once I get to this screen: http://qadish98.sling.com/index.php
Between the Dish logo and the date is a mouse-over menu that lists my receiver R00 numbers. There are plenty of hoops to jump through to get to that screen.

[GrumpyBear]

Well,
One thing they have done, is fix some of the latency issues for users that use Sat services, like HughesNet, for internet.

I have been playing with this off and on all day. Lucky for me I have been able in the past to get both Idaho Dvr's web activated, in the past, and names. For those still seeing only ROO#'s have you tried creating a name for the recievers in the Broadband setup, 6,1,9? Do to latency issues I have never been able to actually use Dish.sling.com in the past, for either one of them at here at my parents house. Nor have I been able to use dish.sling to access my own recievers back in Carlsbad. I have tried this within just the last week or so too with no success.

Today, for the 2 DVR's here in Idaho, the dish.sling works great. Can only setup records, can't do watch now's though, nor can I access recordings, even though I do have a ethernet connection. Seems to still be some latency issues.
I can access both DVR's in Carlsbad, setup recordings, setup watchnow(driving the Kids Crazy all day), and even access recordings on those 2 DVR's. Yes I have both DVR's in Carlsbad Networked. THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO DO BEFORE, when using the HughesNet Internet service. This is a HUGE step forward, on the latency issues.

[CABill]

Originally Posted by Kent Taylor

Once I get to this screen: http://qadish98.sling.com/index.php
Between the Dish logo and the date is a mouse-over menu that lists my receiver R00 numbers. There are plenty of hoops to jump through to get to that screen.

Thanks - didn't even see that up there! I was bogged down in the Preferences tab and those R00 numbers. I haven't figured out the patterns but have been able to create "reasonable" timers on both receivers, but if I search for NFL and pick a Sunday game, the timer in the receiver still shows "Tues 22-Nov". May be search timers or N days in the future, dunno.

It doesn't appear that you really need to enter your CORRECT birthdate - not sure why it is asking me every time. I have to reach the receivers from under the house (no basement) to get Cat5 to them and have avoided it so far. I've got some spare wireless AP / Bridge boxes sitting around so I may try the version that isn't "via satellite". I doubt I'd use this new "w/o Ethernet connection" version much, but it is nice they made it available.

[CABill]

Originally Posted by GrumpyBear

For those still seeing only ROO#'s have you tried creating a name for the recievers in the Broadband setup, 6,1,9?

I think you are missing the point that we don't have anything connected to the RJ45 on the receiver. There is no Broadband to setup in 6, 1, 9. The thread is about setting recordings via Sat without a need for an Internet connection to the receiver. That's why it includes several other receivers that don't have Broadband Setup as a menu choice - the SD 522 & 625 can set timers now too.

[GrumpyBear]

Originally Posted by CABill

I think you are missing the point that we don't have anything connected to the RJ45 on the receiver. There is no Broadband to setup in 6, 1, 9. The thread is about setting recordings via Sat without a need for an Internet connection to the receiver. That's why it includes several other receivers that don't have Broadband Setup as a menu choice - the SD 522 & 625 can set timers now too.

With or without anything connected to your RJ45 you can go to 6,1,9 and set the name, setting the name has nothing to do with a internet connection or not. Not all recievers have the option correct, but for those recievers that do have the option to set the name, give it a try and see if that helps, instead of fighting the preferences on the website.

I do realize this is allowing users to setup timers on there DVR's without having to have a ethernet connection. This is great.

A By product of all this, for those people that DO have ethernet connections on there home DVR's and have a Sat Service like HughesNet, when they go somewere else, like Snowbirds or RV users, or those that visit family, they NOW can access thier HOME DVR's. THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD NOT DO BEFORE.

Before trying to use HughesNet, I could NEVER CONNECT to my DVR's in Carlsbad, latency issues would never allow the vpn connection, and would just cycle through trying to connect.
Now with the new setup, when using HughesNet, and this morning I tried from the nieghbors WildBlue service, she has through Dish, I can also access my HOME Dvrs remotely. For those that use Sat Services for Broadband this is great news, too.

[Kent Taylor]

Originally Posted by GrumpyBear

With or without anything connected to your RJ45 you can go to 6,1,9 and set the name, setting the name has nothing to do with a internet connection or not.

While this is true, there's no way to transmit this information w/o the internet connection. Therefore, it's not much use.

[CABill]

Originally Posted by GrumpyBear

With or without anything connected to your RJ45 you can go to 6,1,9 and set the name, setting the name has nothing to do with a internet connection or not. Not all recievers have the option correct, but for those recievers that do have the option to set the name, give it a try and see if that helps, instead of fighting the preferences on the website.

The receivers that don't have a Broadband Setup menu choice will behave the same as a ViP receiver that supports the receiver option to give a nickname AT THE RECEIVER. Neither have any way to communicate that nickname back to DISH / Sling / anybody outside the local receiver without a Broadband connection. How were you envisioning that the nickname is going to be communicated FROM the receiver to the web site without Broadband?

[GrumpyBear]

Originally Posted by CABill

The receivers that don't have a Broadband Setup menu choice will behave the same as a ViP receiver that supports the receiver option to give a nickname AT THE RECEIVER. Neither have any way to communicate that nickname back to DISH / Sling / anybody outside the local receiver without a Broadband connection. How were you envisioning that the nickname is going to be communicated FROM the receiver to the web site without Broadband?

Hey it was JUST an Idea, things have changed with whatever Dish has recently done, and how communication is being handled. Have no idea what would happen if you set the name and what would happen after tonights reciever update. I have learned sometimes just try it, there are users here that would have convinced me that it was impossible to back up my EHD's. I didn't listen, and back up my EHD's regularly, and its an extremely easy process.

Communication between the recievers and remote access has changed alot in just two weeks.
Just 2 weeks ago, via Sat service you would have had latency issues that would have not allowed you to access, networked DVR's. 2 weeks ago, it took 3 steps to get to your guide and reciever, all on the same page, now login and no extra step, takes me right to gird and reciever.
Only difference I can see between the 2 accounts I login as, the Sat Broadband DVR's are hit and miss on rather they are online or not. Broadband DVR's connected via DSL are online all the time, and using 2 different Sat services, I have full access to them, something that has not been available since the launch of Dish.sling through a Sat Serivce.

Looks like even via the website preferences, you will need to have a ethernet connection to set the Reciever name, as it will tell you the reciever is offline.

Yes I realize that the press release is all about setting up recording's, without having to have a ethernet connection. There are some really cool by products that Dish has created that some users, may find very useful, as they travel.
Granted doing a watch it now, isn't important, being able to record from this point forward is kind of useful, but after you set a recording and only have access to a Sat Service I can now access MY DVR tab to check and see if that the recordings actually happened, something that is really important, and not available before.

[jerry downing]

I tried it on my 625 last night. It went off without a hitch.

[samsmith]

here is the link

With a high-speed internet connection into the back of your ViP series DVR to experience even more DISH Remote Access features:
Manage your DVR space
Set recording priorities
Manage recording conflicts
Delete shows you’ve already watched
Watch Live TV or DVR recordings on your PC with a connected Slingbox
Internet Qualified Receivers: ViP 612, ViP 622, ViP 722, ViP 722k.

[Dario33]

I've been using this feature via the sling link that went live a few months back. However, just this week, I have been unable to access the 'myDVR' tab -- it's grayed-out for some reason and says I need to reset my broadband connection (which I did, but didn't resolve the issue).

Anyone else experiencing the same or know how to get around this?

[dbconsultant]

Wow, that was easy! Of course, since I'm at work, I called my hubby to check the recording I set to make sure it doesn't conflict with anything else that is already set. If the manual timer is always set with a priority of 1, I could end up messing up existing timers. I don't have internet connected to the dvr so there's no way to see what timers are in place - just need to be careful with what I set.

[coldsteel]

Originally Posted by dbconsultant

I don't have internet connected to the dvr so there's no way to see what timers are in place - just need to be careful with what I set.

If you have broadband at home, maybe a HomePlug adapter would help...

[CABill]

Originally Posted by coldsteel

If you have broadband at home, maybe a HomePlug adapter would help...

And there is also the possibility that once you connect the receiver to the Internet and setup your account, you could lose the newly added ability to set a timer w/o an Internet connection and just get a message about "not connected". I don't expect that to be the case, but will let someone else tell me otherwise first.

I can't tell if it is "Sat only" timers, or "just Bill", but if I search for NFL and set a timer for a Sunday (22nd) game, they always appear as Tue 22-Nov. If I search for Ferris and set a timer, I get his day off on the right Day and date, but the button doesn't have the drop down for This / All. If I search for NBA and pick a TNT game on Thurs, it says Sat when the timer gets created (on either receiver). It appears in the Guide for Thursday, but if I click it there, the Schedule displays as Saturday for it, and the item below it. If I cursor UP to a previous event, the Day changes to Thurs, but retains the 26th date.