157's activities from latest Lyngsat's update

Darkman · 01-09-04, 12:22 PM

157's activities from latest Lyngsat's update:

133 11 Fox Movie Channel Nagravision Conus P Smith
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149 11 Fox Sports World Nagravision Conus P Smith
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167 11 GAC - Great American Country Nagravision Conus P Smith
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177 11 Nick GAS Nagravision Conus P Smith
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185 11 Hallmark Channel US Nagravision Conus P Smith
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186 11 National Geographic Channel US Nagravision Conus P Smith
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307 11 HBO Comedy East Nagravision Conus P Smith
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313 11 ActionMax East Nagravision Conus P Smith
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314 11 5 StarMax East Nagravision Conus P Smith
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323 11 Showtime Beyond East Nagravision Conus P Smith
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836 11 Telemundo West Nagravision Conus P Smith
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P Smith · 01-09-04, 05:47 PM

That's 1/2 of info - Tuscon AZ locals up on tpn7.

8950, 4130, 4131, 4132, KGUN
8951, 4386, 4387, 4388, KOLD
8952, 4642, 4643, 4644, KVOA
8953, 4898, 4899, 4900, KMSB
8954, 5154, 5155, 5156, KWBA
8955, 5410, 5411, 5412, KTTU
8956, 5666, 5667, 5668, KUAT

Mark Holtz · 01-09-04, 06:04 PM

Hmmmm,,,, how many of those channels are also carried on the 110 bird?

Cyclone · 01-09-04, 06:07 PM

I think 148, 157 will become the Dish500 birds for HI and AK.

mattb · 01-09-04, 06:14 PM

eh or Charlie has a home in Hi and wants to watch some TV from there :-) just kidding

P Smith · 01-09-04, 06:20 PM

As I recall, FCC granted Echostar tpns 1,3,5 at 157 sat - not the 7 and 11.

JohnH · 01-09-04, 06:22 PM

EchoStar Satellite Corporation ECHO4 SAT-STA-20030903-00301 P
Effective Date: 12/10/2003 Grant of Authority
Special Temporary Authority
Nature of Service: Direct Broadcast Satellite Service
On December 10, 2003, the Satellite Division granted EchoStar's request for special temporary authority to operate on channels 1, 7,
and 11 at its assigned 157 W.L. orbital location rather than on its assigned channels 1,3, and 5 at the 157 W.L. location for a period of
60 days commencing December 17, 2003, subject to certain conditions.

**James Long** · 01-09-04, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnH

EchoStar Satellite Corporation ECHO4 SAT-STA-20030903-00301 P
Effective Date: 12/10/2003 Grant of Authority
Special Temporary Authority
Nature of Service: Direct Broadcast Satellite Service
On December 10, 2003, the Satellite Division granted EchoStar's request for special temporary authority to operate on channels 1, 7,
and 11 at its assigned 157 W.L. orbital location rather than on its assigned channels 1,3, and 5 at the 157 W.L. location for a period of
60 days commencing December 17, 2003, subject to certain conditions.

E4 must be in REALLY BAD condition if they cannot run on the assigned channels. And what will they do on February 17th?

JL

**James Long** · 01-09-04, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclone

I think 148, 157 will become the Dish500 birds for HI and AK.

I agree, although E* needs more bandwidth and a new satellite to make it so. E* has 49 transponders on Dish500 - 10 of them spotbeams which would leave 39 transponders of content. E* has 35 transponders at the new Dish500 location, 148-157. Nice math except for two issues:

#1) CONUS locals on 148 that would need to be moved, forcing the replacement of many dishes.
#2) 148 and 157 do not currently point at Hawaii. Temporary reaiming may be able to be done IF the receive dish still faces the uplink.

I believe AK/HI are the best use of 148-157. Perhaps a third bird can be bought for 148 with JUST a Hawaii spot? Then again it would be nice to cover other pacific areas if possible.

JL

Darkman · 01-09-04, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P Smith

That's 1/2 of info - Tuscon AZ locals up on tpn7.

8950, 4130, 4131, 4132, KGUN
8951, 4386, 4387, 4388, KOLD
8952, 4642, 4643, 4644, KVOA
8953, 4898, 4899, 4900, KMSB
8954, 5154, 5155, 5156, KWBA
8955, 5410, 5411, 5412, KTTU
8956, 5666, 5667, 5668, KUAT

LOL - P. Smith - those were uplinked previously, that is why i didn't mention them...
( I said "Latest update" )

Jim Parker · 01-09-04, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclone

I think 148, 157 will become the Dish500 birds for HI and AK.

That would give me a stronger signal. I'd still need to look at 110 for the HD tho. Interesting to see what happens.

MattB. Naw, he has a home in Alaska

It's in a village named Ikuktlitlig, for when he REALLY wants to get away from it all.

Mike Richardson · 01-09-04, 07:18 PM

The local channels are probably there just for testing or something. I remember hearing that they had to do something with the slot or they loose it (or lose it. or whatever the hell it is)

JohnH · 01-09-04, 07:23 PM

Well, it is a copy of 119 Tp 7 Arizona beam. and is not posted at Lyngsat as of this time. I suspect it will be later tonight or tomorrow though, if I know somebody.

Darkman · 01-09-04, 07:53 PM

Gotcha

I mixed 'em up with Eugene and Portland there

Sorry P.Smith

JohnH · 01-09-04, 08:51 PM

Viola

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/dish157.shtml

Darkman · 01-09-04, 09:22 PM

ya figures

**James Long** · 01-09-04, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Richardson

The local channels are probably there just for testing or something. I remember hearing that they had to do something with the slot or they loose it (or lose it. or whatever the hell it is)

Lose - don't have anymore, like lost.
Loose - not tight - although you can set something loose and lose it

Site - a place, such as a page or collection of pages on the web
Sight - vision, such as a line of vision to a satellite
You can look at this web site if you have line of sight to the monitor.
What a sight this web site is!

JL

P Smith · 01-10-04, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnH

Viola

http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/dish157.shtml

I would say - 'Voila'

TNGTony · 01-10-04, 01:41 AM

Hi guys...I've received several notices of this thread's existence and some independent e-mails with this info on it. I'll update the channel chart late tommorow/Sunday morning. My "day" job got in the way again.

It must be the height of the high school basketball season.

Oh, and lI have to add this to Lurker's post because this one is getting out of hand too:

There -- A place. Not here. It's over there.
Their -- Belonging to them. It's their mistake.
They're -- Contraction for "they are"

They're over there with their friends.

See ya
Tony

JohnH · 01-10-04, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P Smith

I would say - 'Voila'

It is muxic to my ears. Voila Viola.

**James Long** · 01-10-04, 08:16 AM

I took a rough sketch of what E4 would have covered from a satellite eye view from 110º or 119º and overlaid that pattern on a picture of what E4 is now capable of seeing from 157º.

It looks like the regular ConUS coverage is more than half blown out to space, if they want to keep any coverage of Hawaii. I've attached a picture based on keeping Hawaii covered.

Edit: The picture has been changed to also show Hawaii not covered but better mainland coverage.

Enjoy!

JL

Mike123abc · 01-10-04, 11:25 AM

With DIRECTV's new approach to putting whole markets on separate satellites, I wonder if Dish is now testing reception on 157 for small western markets. With three transponders they might be able to put up 4-5 small markets on 157. Tiny DMAs they could probably get 8 up there.

Mike Richardson · 01-10-04, 01:47 PM

Also it looks like the national channels they have on transponder 11 are all channels Hawaii can't get currently. So they could offer Hawaii these extra channels and sell more AT180 packages to them, and then offer small western DMAs locals. Assuming E4 does not disintegrate

P Smith · 01-10-04, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnH

It is muxic to my ears. Voila Viola.

Look like we should drift to French forum, mon sher !

**James Long** · 01-10-04, 03:40 PM

It depends on where they end up getting signal coverage. I've redone the map to exclude Hawaii, just in case they decide that the west coast is more important than the far west.

I would not put ANY stock in what is currently on any of the transponders at 157º. TP1 is an exact copy of 119º TP1 Northwest Spotbeam - TP7 is an exact copy of 119º TP7 Arizona Spotbeam - and TP11 is an exact copy of 110º TP11. It is just test material. Why they chose these three (especially needing a 60 day STA to do it) is probably more of a reflection of the poor status of E4 than a decision of its final use.

JL