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Old 07-20-05, 02:39 AM   #1   |  Link
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L216 is spooling

Both of my 921's are getting new software right now.
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Both of my 921's are getting new software right now.

Ditto Here! Maybe a Non-DMA OTA EPG. We'll see.
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Old 07-20-05, 03:07 AM   #3   |  Link
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Haven't checked very much so far, but it did not fix the problem with the DVR preview window after erasing a recording. Still get just the upper right corner of the screen in the preview window. Very disappointing upgrade already.
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Old 07-20-05, 04:40 AM   #5   |  Link
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Good News, got the guide data back on locals. Also I noticed that the locals signal strength has increased about 10 points on each channel.
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I have L2.16 I don't notice any difference. Anyone know what this download was supposed to accomplish?
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Old 07-20-05, 04:59 AM   #7   |  Link
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Yes this release was just to fix the OTA guide data problem that was broken in 215 and I'm happy to report my local guide data is back. I'm just curious if the people who started receiving it without subscribing to the satellite locals has lost it or if Dish has removed the requirement of having to subscribe permanently. If so, will they follow suit with the 942 receiver?
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Also I noticed that the locals signal strength has increased about 10 points on each channel.
I hope 216 has this effect on the OTA tuner sensativity. I kind of doubt it though. Your probably expieriencing favorable reception conditions. Give it a couple of days and make comparisons to your normal viewing times prior to L216.
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216 is BAD for me

Well, I few minutes ago I was watching TV (channel 205) and checking out this forum and saw that 216 was available.

I did a power card reboot to force the download (checked that it had not occured overnight even though the receiver was in standby mode), and down it loaded.

After download:
1. Lost guide data for the digital subchannel locals (I do not subscribe to dish locals anymore) eg 005-1 etc. I had guide data for these channels with 215, cannot say for earlier versions of the s/w because I had subscribed to lil's. I had no guide data for the analog locals with 215 and still do not.

2. I could no longer receive ANY channel - said I had lost satellite signal lock. I did a switch check and it and said that one of my 2 SW21 switches was not present - I had lost a switch. They were working fine up to the download of 216!

No I get NOTHING, NADA - every satellit channel says satellite not locked.

So, I then check 005, then 102 and lo and behold I get 102 OK, then 103 etc. I jumped to 205 and its coming in just fine. When trying 9420 etc I am back to no satellite signal message, so check the switch. It says that the receiver will not work in this configuration - BUT IT WAS until I jumped to 9420!

I cannot belive that the switch decided to go at EXACTLY the time of 216 download - one of the switches has been working fine since Jan 1997 and the other for at least 2 years.

I have now started a hard drive test - its started at countdown from 249, and is currently stuck at 242 for the last 5 minutes - anybody tell me what to expect with this?

So far - for me, 216 has been nothing but trouble.
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Update - Now I can watch 205 again as well as other low channel number satellite channels. So either the 921 does work with one satellite feed or the second one has started to work. However, the last time I did a switch check it said that I only have one working SW21. The receiver appears to have started working with only one checked out SW21.

So why did I lose program data for local digital sub channels eg 005-1, 004-1 (Boston) etc?
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Good News, got the guide data back on locals. Also I noticed that the locals signal strength has increased about 10 points on each channel.
Still did not get some of the local guide data back after this upgrade in the Buffalo, New York area. But, those local channels have not had guide data since L212. :-(

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Another update:
I cannot get any local digital off air sub channels.

I did a menu 6,8, and scanned for local digital channles. It found locals 2-1, 4-1, 5-1 etc. Problem is that they do NOT then show up in the program guide.

Anybody else see this? Is it a new bug?

(remember that currently the 921 tells me I have a bad SW21 but after a few minutes still lets me see channels 101, 102 ... 205 etc just fine, just when I try 9420 do I get a no satellit feed message).
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Old 07-20-05, 07:29 AM   #13   |  Link
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Another update:
I cannot get any local digital off air sub channels.

I did a menu 6,8, and scanned for local digital channles. It found locals 2-1, 4-1, 5-1 etc. Problem is that they do NOT then show up in the program guide.

Anybody else see this? Is it a new bug?

(remember that currently the 921 tells me I have a bad SW21 but after a few minutes still lets me see channels 101, 102 ... 205 etc just fine, just when I try 9420 do I get a no satellit feed message).
You might check this thread: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.ph...0&page=9&pp=25

Seems that there was a 110 outage last night / this morning.
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I just unplugged my 921 and forced a download of 216. I still don't get the OTA program information for the two stations I lost after 213 in Louisville, KY.
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My locals guide info are exactly the same as before. The locals that I'd get from DISH on 110 get the guide info but the secondary locals on the wings (61.5) don't have guide info on them. Plus, sub channels have never and probably never will get guide info because PSIP is not used to get the guide info on these channels.

When 110 was out for a few hours, I lost ALL guide info on my OTA locals. I wonder when they'll start using PSIP instead of 110 (in my case since that's where majority of the DISH locals are from) to get guide info.
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UPDATE: Nothing new regarding L216, however....

I just received L218 for my TOASTER, and I'm pissed. Remember how L214 would burn the left side of the bread and not even warm the right side? Well, that bug is back again! The dual function of the double slots is now enabled!! I can now enjoy 4 slices of toast at a time, just the way this POS was advertised to work like in the first place. If they don't fix the left side burning bug, I'm selling mine on ebay and leasing the new platinum toaster for only $400 ( I have an inside person at the executive office.....). I wish they would have a solution for the lack of bagel support, I don't know why they just can't come out with a toaster the will toast both bread and bagels. I'm going to give them one last chance with another software update and if I'm not happy, I'm gone!!!!
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I just unplugged my 921 and forced a download of 216. I still don't get the OTA program information for the two stations I lost after 213 in Louisville, KY.
fkasten,
What are those 2 stations?. On 213, I lost 3, 15 & 68. I haven't got them back with 215 and I am at work so I don't know what 216 has done.

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[quote=TonyB]Another update:
I cannot get any local digital off air sub channels.
I did a menu 6,8, and scanned for local digital channles. It found locals 2-1, 4-1, 5-1 etc. Problem is that they do NOT then show up in the program guide.
Anybody else see this? Is it a new bug?

I have the same problem, I tried deleting all the OTA stations, rebooting, and re-scanning them. They show up in the menu but not in the program guide?
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Larry, I lost the OTA program info for 3 and 68 with 213 and still don't have them. I'd be curious to know if you regained them.

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Larry, I lost the OTA program info for 3 and 68 with 213 and still don't have them. I'd be curious to know if you regained them.

Frank
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Thanks, for the reply.

I'll let you know how it comes out.
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does anyone know if the scaling problem that started w/l215 has been fixed in 216?
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Is this another dumb move on the part of E* or what?

Send a software load right in the middle of 110 going down. They hardly have the time to evaluate the bird repair and now this?

Would any of you try to do a check switch on your 921 at the same time you knew that a service tech was rewiring your dish? No? That proves you have more common sense.

Anyway-
Mine says "download interrupted" and I'm still at L215. I have only 61.5 bird sat signals left on the guide as well as all my OTA at this point.
signal check on 110 is zip to 40 or so and it is intermittent.


Update- I did a check switch and this failed again.
Did a power plug reboot, check switch and all has returned to normal the way it was before 110 went out.

Now let's see what happens here with the L216 download

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I did a soft reboot to get my download...looks like I'll have to wait for guide to repopulate...I have no info on all channels for tommorow and only 2 days of guide.
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Unhappy Lost local OTA channels

Got 216 this morning and lost my OTA channels! They are gone from the guide and I can NOT tune them by entering the channel number into the remote. They show on the local channel scan list (I even did a rescan), but they don't appear in the guide list. I still have all of the sub-channels in the guide (004-02, 007-02, etc) and I can get those by entering number's into the remote. Any ideas's --trying now to get through to Dish --15+ minute wait !!

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Is this another dumb move on the part of E* or what?

Send a software load right in the middle of 110 going down. They hardly have the time to evaluate the bird repair and now this?
Hold on a moment… Let’s try some opposite spin on this. Do you suppose that the new Eldon-ware in the data stream nuked the 110 bird? Hmmm – Maybe so…
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