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06-02-06, 07:38 PM
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942- L287 Release Notes and Discussion
Fixes/Changes:
• Add channel up/down/recall support to 004 (pat/pmt error) popup
• Green line and video smearing fix
• Remove button to allow user to disable nightly updates (disable capability was removed in previous release.)
New Features:
• A new look to the System Info page
• IPPV Adult Event Hiding (If the Hide Adult feature is enabled, the event will show as ‘PPV Event’ in the purchase history screen)
• Support for new LNB to allow for 4 satellite connections
• New DISH Network Logo
• Dish HOME Text Change
• Clear DVR History
• Edit DVR Event Title
• New Security Features
• A grayed-out H/W Tests button will show in the Diagnostics menu (To be implemented in a future release)
There has been a lot of work going into the 942 and this should show that. Nice work Dish!
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06-02-06, 08:07 PM
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Thanks! I was wondering why my TV was on this morning. I also noticed they put the episode # and original air date on the info page... very helpful. New system page takes a while to load. And I thought the 942 forum was abandoned.
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06-02-06, 08:10 PM
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Most definately not, Dish has been hard at work on the 942 and this is one small way of showing it.
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06-02-06, 10:27 PM
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Remove button to allow user to disable nightly updates
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This was reported for L286. Did it not happen then or did E* forget they told us about it already? 
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06-02-06, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon Spackman
Fixes/Changes:
• Green line and video smearing fix
New Features:
• Edit DVR Event Title
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The first thing I noticed was the "original air date", then the edit dvr title. I found a use for it immediately to deal with the marked a watched event. I put a "1" at the end of the title to signify I've viewed it and my wife will put a "2" when she has. This is a great new feature.
The video thing was the second fix, I usually view SD in 4:3 and it is apparent before this release. Now it is crisp!
Does the ERD (menu 86) work? I don't recall that feature nor do I have a drive to test it.
 Now they need to work on IR on TV2!!!!!
 IR on TV2!!! 
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06-02-06, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon Spackman
Fixes/Changes:
• Remove button to allow user to disable nightly updates (disable capability was removed in previous release.)
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This sentence reads like a double negative. It seems to state that they have removed the button to allow a user to disable the updates, yet the qualifier states that this has already been done in an earlier release. So how would this be a change?
I know that L287 does not allow the user to disable the nightly update, which is a feature that I desparately need as my 942 wipes out both my EPG and all of my timers every time it does the nightly update. I have to run a checkswitch to get them back. And when I'm out of town, I can't run the checkswitch so none of my timers work. This effectively limits my 942 to being a 24 hour DVR.
I had a 10-day DVR with L282, which allowed me to disable the update.
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06-02-06, 11:59 PM
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Caller ID is fixed!
Just got a phone call and the Caller ID showed up between ring 1 and 2!!! It now finally works right - thank you Dish!
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06-03-06, 01:46 AM
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This sentence reads like a double negative. It seems to state that they have removed the button to allow a user to disable the updates, yet the qualifier states that this has already been done in an earlier release. So how would this be a change?
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In the previous release the disable button was simply grayed out now it is gone completely.
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06-03-06, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jetskier
Does the ERD (menu 86) work? I don't recall that feature nor do I have a drive to test it.
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It currently should work like it does on the other model receivers with this option.
you select ext when setting up a time and it will automaticaly start your POCKETdish and do a real time composite video recording.
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06-03-06, 04:47 PM
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Anyone notice the volume on all HD channels are lower than SD now. I had to crank up the volume but when i switch to sd its too loud.
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06-03-06, 05:16 PM
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always been louder on SD than HD.
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06-03-06, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon Spackman
always been louder on SD than HD.
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No, the volume is a lot lower now on HD. I used to watch both SD & HD in same level audio, now I have to crank up 30% to get good audio level on HD. I think this is a bug... sometime audio levels are the same for both but not always.
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06-03-06, 10:59 PM
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I like the new system info screen and I like the episode number and air date info.
But, is it just me or... there used to be a feature when during play back if you paused, then unpaused, the video would jump back a second or two so that when you unpaused, the audio (which lags a bit) would have a chance to kick in so that it would audible by the time you got to your pause point. That way, you could pause, unpause, pause, unpause and no dialogue would be lost.
I'm wondering whether this is due to the update, but I noticed today that this nice feature has dissapeared - now pausing and unpausing does not jump back the video but words from the dialogue are lost.
If this was deliberate I would really like the option of having the original behaviour back.
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06-03-06, 11:56 PM
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I'm also pleased to see that E* continues to improve the 942 s/w. As one who got here via the rocky 921 days it's refreshing to see a set up that's pretty solid for a change. The caller ID fix is pretty sweet as the long delay used to bug the crap out of me.
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06-04-06, 12:21 AM
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I'm wondering if anyone has noticed an increase in the fan noise since this release? I noticed my fan running louder yesterday and wonder if it's related, or if my 942 is just giving out.
It's not any hotter than it ever has been, gets plenty of ventilation. The fan has always run, no matter if the receiver is on or not, but now the volume of the fan (I assume velocity) is noticeably higher.
I also unplugged the unit last night and replugged this afternoon. The fan was back to it's original volume for a few hours, but now it has resumed the higher speed.
Anyone else?
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06-04-06, 10:37 AM
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But, is it just me or... there used to be a feature when during play back if you paused, then unpaused, the video would jump back a second or two so that when you unpaused, the audio (which lags a bit) would have a chance to kick in so that it would audible by the time you got to your pause point. That way, you could pause, unpause, pause, unpause and no dialogue would be lost.
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Yes, that is how it used to be and I agree with you 100%. I like the old method much better!!! Hopefully this will be fixed in the future.
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06-04-06, 10:52 AM
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Yes, that is how it used to be and I agree with you 100%. I like the old method much better!!! Hopefully this will be fixed in the future.
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I think you meant to say "unfixed". I don't recall it being broken in L286. 
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06-04-06, 06:42 PM
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Hehe, that is exactly what I mean.
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06-04-06, 10:06 PM
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Yes, that is how it used to be and I agree with you 100%. I like the old method much better!!! Hopefully this will be fixed in the future.
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I noticed the change in this tonight. I agree with both of you. It was better the old way.
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06-05-06, 09:02 AM
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Bugs Noticed
I noticed a few bugs in this release:
As in previous posts I noticed:
- Sound is about 30% lower on HD and movie channels, I never had to turn up my TV past 50 before, but now I have to turn it above 60. I watch most of my programs between 35-40.
- During a playback function there is no sound for a second
- I noticed the DVR had more heat then usual dissapating from the sides when I was unplugging it for a reset, but did not think about it at the time.
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- If I play back certain DVR programs that were stored, it would jump to the previous live program I was watching, but it would show a black screen... I have to push channel up to get out it. It has a good chance of freezing on me if I don't change it right away. I tried a 10-second power off reset, and unplugging it. I ended up erasing the programs because I thought they were corrupt
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06-05-06, 09:54 AM
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Definite difference in volume level between "regular" and HD programming.
[quote=haytham]I noticed a few bugs in this release:
As in previous posts I noticed:
- Sound is about 30% lower on HD and movie channels, I never had to turn up my TV past 50 before, but now I have to turn it above 60. I watch most of my programs between 35-40.
I concur: I recorded "Motorweek" off the air from our local PBS HD feed and I had to crank the volume from a nominal 10 to 15 to get a usable audio level. When I stopped my playback, and the 942 returned to a live DISH program, I had to scramble to turn down the TV because it was just blasting.
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06-05-06, 11:12 AM
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I agree with the comments above. Good and bad changes here as well...
1. The sound on HD is much, much lower (BAD).
2. The skip back after PAUSE was great to have. Now there is a second or so without sound, so you miss dialogue (BAD).
3. Orginal air date showing (GREAT).
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06-05-06, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by haytham
I noticed a few bugs in this release:
As in previous posts I noticed:
- Sound is about 30% lower on HD and movie channels, I never had to turn up my TV past 50 before, but now I have to turn it above 60. I watch most of my programs between 35-40.
I concur: I recorded "Motorweek" off the air from our local PBS HD feed and I had to crank the volume from a nominal 10 to 15 to get a usable audio level. When I stopped my playback, and the 942 returned to a live DISH program, I had to scramble to turn down the TV because it was just blasting.
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I guess you can call it a bug on top of a bug. This audio problem only occur on one tuner. I'm using single mode and if I switch to another tuner and tune to same HD channels the audio level goes up to same level as SD. It's obvious if you compare the two tuners, the audio is way too low for one of the tuner.
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06-06-06, 01:16 AM
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I'll risk having to don my asbestos suit, but I prefer no automatic backskip when pausing. I'd really like to pause and then have it start up again at exactly the same spot. However, that's also assuming that pause works as it should!
Right now (287), it seems to sometimes automatically skip back, and sometimes not. What's worse though, and this has been broken for quite a while, if you manually skip back a few seconds or so, it doesn't start where you left it, but rather picks up at the spot you paused at. This makes it impossible to pause, skip back a few times to catch that play you missed, and then un-pause or play to start at the new position a second or two back. I believe this used to work properly about a year ago when I first got the 942.
Also, not having the sound for a second after un-pausing is really bad (my 501 used to do this and I was pleasantly surprised when the 942 didn't). However, if you skip back once manually while paused, it will not only start up with immediate sound, but also gives you that half second or so repeated that everyone wants!
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I noticed to lower volume last night as well. Not too bad. I usually set my Panny on 15....now it's more like 20.
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