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Testing from Olevia HDMI with Native On.
I'm getting 771 messages for 5 seconds whenever I switch from an HD MPG4 to an SD channel with Native On.
Switching back from SD to HD MPG4 I get "No signal" from my TV for 2 to 3 seconds before the picture comes back.
HR20 has been running all night. Temp in room is, as always, 67 degrees. But the system is running at 119 degrees. Never been that low before, ever. Down 4 degrees from the normal. And I realize its a perspective, but the picture quality on the HD channels looks measurably better to me.
Direct channel entry is working without requiring an Enter or four digit padding.
REW NOT WORKING ON HD MPG4s. It is rewinding, but the picture is just freezing where I press REW until I press play. Very annoying. It is working on other HD channels, but Pinky is rearing her ugly head every time on these channels (TNTHD, HBOHD).
Not seeing the audio dropouts that plagued us with 0141 so far. Been jumping around to different HD and SD channels looking for this.
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03-30-07, 07:50 AM
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Any word when this update will possible be available for the -100?
Going back to the older release after being on the latest CE with the -700 makes the issues that were seen with earlier releases just stand out that much more.
If they need a tester for new software and the -100.....
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03-30-07, 08:15 AM
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Still have "super pillarbox".. First seen in 141.. like the HR20 forgot to send the 16:9 flag.. get 2 sets of pillars on a horisontaly crushed 4:3 with 4:3 channel tuned.. Had to turn off 480p to 'fix'
settings: native on 480p/720p
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03-30-07, 08:46 AM
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Audio dropouts still happening
Still getting audio dropouts this am watching GMA on local mpeg4 HD (ch 33, WCFT).
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03-30-07, 09:07 AM
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Glad to have my Music and Photos back and the channels change time is a lot better.
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Samsung 32" LCD, LG 20 LCD" & Viewsonic 17" HDTV LCD - Component via Cat 6 baluns from HR20
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03-30-07, 09:09 AM
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Glad to have my Music and Photos back and the channels change time is a lot better.
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I haven't got to try music and photos... Is this better than 141 where the time between songs was extremely long?
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SWM8 Firmware v1.0.1, Library v1.0.0
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(1) HR10-250 (Decommissioned)
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03-30-07, 09:16 AM
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Please take the Caller ID Site Survey if you haven't already.
If you are one of the the 40%-50% experiencing Caller ID problems, we need your input.
Especially if you are not having problems we need your input as to your setup that works so well.
The initial results are starting to come in and several are ones I would never have expected:
Caller ID Preliminary Results - Need Your Help
If you are having problems with Caller ID, please also try the steps detailed in:
Troubleshooting Caller ID on the HR20
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03-30-07, 09:24 AM
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0x45 - channel changing is MUCH faster. Music and pics - pregnant pause between songs fixed (Nero and WMP11, Nero still truncates track -Nero problem). Playback for both cuts off after about 10 minutes total play.
Ballpark between songs about 1 second.
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03-30-07, 09:25 AM
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What's the ballpark time between songs now?
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SWM8 Firmware v1.0.1, Library v1.0.0
(1) HR20-700 (Wired)
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(1) HR21-700 (Wireless) with ATSC add-on AM21
(1) HR10-250 (Decommissioned)
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03-30-07, 09:27 AM
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Still must punch in channel numbers more than once before it will change channels.
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03-30-07, 09:33 AM
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Oops, spoke too soon. Things are wonderful on the Olevia via HDMI-HDMI.
Things are trashed on the RCA with HDMI-DVI. Haven't touched it, but yet I have a totally blued out screen via HDMI to the DVI connection. No other changes to either the HR20 or the RCA EXCEPT for downloading 0145. The SVideo connection is fine. And yes, I checked to make sure the connections were in firmly.
Maybe I wasn't imagining that the HD channels looked better on the Olevia. It would appear that whatever they did to improve that screwed the pooch for DVI connections.
I have also noticed that the settings on the HR20 that is connected to the RCA seem to have all been reset. It was back to a 4:3 TV vs. 16:9. It was back to Native On instead of Native Off. Its back to 2-buttons to get to the Guide. Series Links and recordings are all there, however.
I guess I'm getting receiver #3 in the family room....off to call D*
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03-30-07, 09:35 AM
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Still must punch in channel numbers more than once before it will change channels.
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Interesting. That's not happening on my HR20s. They are both working great with direct channel number entry - no padding, no Enter key needed. One is Native On and one is Native Off.
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03-30-07, 09:38 AM
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Maybe I wasn't imagining that the HD channels looked better on the Olevia. It would appear that whatever they did to improve that screwed the pooch for DVI connections.
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And works okay...
Did you try unplugging the TV, to allow it to reset as well?
ALSO: Since you have two HR20's... any chance you would be willing to try the "Olevia"'s on the RCA to see if it is something specific to that one unit... or something on both.
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03-30-07, 09:45 AM
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I haven't got to try music and photos... Is this better than 141 where the time between songs was extremely long?
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Mine is going right from song to song. Most I have noticed so far is 5 seconds, but that could be from the MP3.
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03-30-07, 09:48 AM
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Still must punch in channel numbers more than once before it will change channels.
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Having the same issue, on multiple HR20-700's and remotes. /steve
PS: The new channel numbers are correctly displayed on screen as they are punched in, even though they don't "take". So it's not an IR issue that might be solved by switching to RF.
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Steady as a rock so far this am. Channel switching is good on RC HDMI-HDMI. Guide working well. Will leave rest of testing to non tech wife who will find any problem. Native on.
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03-30-07, 10:07 AM
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Check Sat Signal Pre-empted Later Recording
Funny little quirk I just noticed that may have always been there. I went to check Sat Signal Strength at 10:53 AM and I got a message that doing this would affect an "I Love Lucy" recording scheduled for 11AM. I checked SS anyway, and exited at 10:56.
I checked the To Do list and the Lucy recording was gone, yet the Lucy "episode" list still showed it as scheduled to record. At 11AM, the recording started anyway and was back on the To Do list. The HR-20 was able to rebuild the To Do list in time.
Since no recording was in progress at the time, I wonder if the pre-emptive warning I got was a "Feature" or a "Bug"? It could be considered either, I guess! 
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03-30-07, 10:08 AM
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My system is connected HDMI->DVI connection..
And works okay...
Did you try unplugging the TV, to allow it to reset as well?
ALSO: Since you have two HR20's... any chance you would be willing to try the "Olevia"'s on the RCA to see if it is something specific to that one unit... or something on both.
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Hadn't tried that, but just did. Also RBR'd the HR20 to be sure too. No change.
The only difference since yesterday, other than the 0145 download is that I changed the output of the SVideo/Composite audio connections. They had been hooked to a DVD recorder, and I switched them to the TV to check out the CC thing. But I also switched it back to the DVD Recorder, no change. I also disconnected them from the HR20 entirely. No change.
Its possible that when I was moving cables in the back that I stressed the HDMI connection on the HR20. I just checked it. It doesn't look bent or like there is anything wrong with it, and it seats fine. No play in it. (I do hate those HDMI connectors, so fragile and unsecurable).
I'll try switching the units tomorrow when the wife is out and about.
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03-30-07, 10:09 AM
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Just curious what the following new feature is ...
Recorded programs are displayed along with live TV programs from the Guide in category sort
I don't use the category sort feature, so I'm not quite sure what this is trying to say ... any ideas?
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03-30-07, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sluciani
Funny little quirk I just noticed that may have always been there. I went to check Sat Signal Strength at 10:53 AM and I got a message that doing this would affect an "I Love Lucy" recording scheduled for 11AM. I checked SS anyway, and exited at 10:56.
I checked the To Do list and the Lucy recording was gone, yet the Lucy "episode" list still showed it as scheduled to record. At 11AM, the recording started anyway and was back on the To Do list. The HR-20 was able to rebuild the To Do list in time.
Since no recording was in progress at the time, I wonder if the pre-emptive warning I got was a "Feature" or a "Bug"? It could be considered either, I guess!
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It is a feature... the unit is just warning you, and it does put a "hold" on the recording... If you where to stay in there longer (past the hour), it would not have recorded.
But since you exited out, it "released" it.
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141 notice had following:
Improvement
Playback of Manual recordings... especialy those from extended sports packages
This is not listed in description of 145.
Is fix of manual recordings of sports packages not in 145?
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Just curious what the following new feature is ...
Recorded programs are displayed along with live TV programs from the Guide in category sort
I don't use the category sort feature, so I'm not quite sure what this is trying to say ... any ideas?
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When you do searches... your serach results will include items in your MyPlaylist.
The Category "filter" of the guide, will also do that now too.
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Quote:
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Just curious what the following new feature is ...
Recorded programs are displayed along with live TV programs from the Guide in category sort
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My guess: If you search for Movies>Comedy, and you've already got "Young Frankenstein" recorded, it will show that as part of the search. OT: If you haven't seen that movie it's hilarious.
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141 notice had following:
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Playback of Manual recordings... especialy those from extended sports packages
This is not listed in description of 145.
Is fix of manual recordings of sports packages not in 145?
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The same fix that was in 0x141... is in 0x145..
But because of some of the reports of people, they wanted to continue researching it to see if they corrected all cases of the issue.
Hence why it isn't "officially" a fix in this release.
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