DBSTalk's First Look at the ViP722 DVR™

**Rob Glasser** · 08-14-07, 04:07 PM

The ViP722 DVR, Dish Network's latest HD DVR, has now been released, along with the highly anticipated USB Storage feature. We'd like to give you our first look at it, as well as a detailed look at all the new software features available to the ViP722 DVR and ViP622 DVR. This first look includes photos of the ViP722 DVR as well as screen shots off all the new features, including USB Storage.

For those of you that read our L4.41 First Look a lot of the software section will look the same, however the USB Storage section has been expanded on.

Click here to download DBSTalk's ViP722 DVR First Look . (Adobe PDF, approx. 1.6MB)

Thanks to Mike Johnson as well for his assistance with this document.

the_dude · 08-15-07, 09:50 AM

Is the VIP722 dvr available for purchase yet ? Any sources you can suggest ?

[quote=Rob Glasser;1048328]The ViP722 DVR, Dish Network's latest HD DVR, is about to be released, along with the highly anticipated USB Storage feature. We'd like to give you our first look at it, as well as a detailed look at all the new software features available to the ViP722 DVR and ViP622 DVR. This first look includes photos of the ViP722 DVR as well as screen shots off all the new features, including USB Storage.

**Rob Glasser** · 08-15-07, 11:05 AM

Today is the release date, according to everything I've seen you should be able to order it now.

the_dude · 08-15-07, 11:09 AM

any online stores that discount below Dish Networks price ?

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Originally Posted by Rob Glasser

Today is the release date, according to everything I've seen you should be able to order it now.

teacher1066 · 08-15-07, 12:50 PM

Before ordering a 722, I'd like to be certain that in single mode I'll still have an HD output on the component RCA outs. I use these with my 622 to power an HD set in the bedroom while the HDMI powers my projector. I've rewired the house with this in mind, so I won't upgrade without this option.
Anyone know if this set up still works with the new unit?

Bogey62 · 08-15-07, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by teacher1066

Before ordering a 722, I'd like to be certain that in single mode I'll still have an HD output on the component RCA outs. I use these with my 622 to power an HD set in the bedroom while the HDMI powers my projector. I've rewired the house with this in mind, so I won't upgrade without this option.
Anyone know if this set up still works with the new unit?

How long is the component run? Do you have any signal issues with that cable run?

Bogey62 · 08-15-07, 02:10 PM

From reading the First Look article, it seems the 722 is just a black 622 with a bigger hard drive, nothing more. I will therefore assume that it has the same issues/bugs as my current 622 because they use the same software.

jw11301 · 08-15-07, 02:10 PM

Does anyone know if the lastest software update for the VIP622 also now allows multi-channel PCM or DD support via the HDMI cable? If not, does the VIP722 support it? Currently my VIP622 is connected to my Denon receiver via HDMI only for Video and Optical for digital Audio.

normang · 08-15-07, 02:18 PM

DishDepot.com had the 722 on its Dish page last week... If you want to buy one instead of lease.

While the lease seems to be pain on the monthly bill, if you consider that the average cost for a HD DVR is $500, and the lease is $6 month, it takes almost 7 years of leasing to have bought one, if you depreciate it somehow, and say cut that in half, your still aournd the time where probably new better, faster, bigger, models would be available for the same lease price.. Even if include the upfront fee.

**Rob Glasser** · 08-15-07, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by teacher1066

Before ordering a 722, I'd like to be certain that in single mode I'll still have an HD output on the component RCA outs. I use these with my 622 to power an HD set in the bedroom while the HDMI powers my projector. I've rewired the house with this in mind, so I won't upgrade without this option.
Anyone know if this set up still works with the new unit?

All outputs active all the time, no different than the 622, you should be fine.

ChuckA · 08-15-07, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jw11301

Does anyone know if the lastest software update for the VIP622 also now allows multi-channel PCM or DD support via the HDMI cable? If not, does the VIP722 support it? Currently my VIP622 is connected to my Denon receiver via HDMI only for Video and Optical for digital Audio.

DD via HDMI has been supported for a good while now. It was in a software release 4-6 months or so back.

lujan · 08-15-07, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogey62

From reading the First Look article, it seems the 722 is just a black 622 with a bigger hard drive, nothing more. I will therefore assume that it has the same issues/bugs as my current 622 because they use the same software.

I don't see what the 722 buys me? I don't ever come close to filling up my 622 and there's nothing new except a larger drive and the color black. I'll be hanging on to my 622 until the next generation DVRs come out. It's nice not having to pay these upgrade fees for once.

robertlaird · 08-15-07, 08:33 PM

Ordered a 722 today drom Dish on Dishing it up.

Replacing my 921 for $200 upgrade with $100 credit and trade in my 921

I have 2 /622's on my account one on dishing it up they wanted me to wait for upgrade. I made noise about mpeg 4 and my 921 obsolete and get offered the upgrade via a supervisor.

Instal set for next Tuesday...they offered Friday or Saturday this week

jw11301 · 08-15-07, 09:34 PM

Thanks. I didn't realize it. Does it support the PCM multi-channel or just standard DD 5.1? I have a Toshiba HD-DVD player and Sony PS3 Blue Ray Disc player that support TrueHD, DD Plus or Uncompressed DD. That is what I am wondering.

BobaBird · 08-16-07, 12:31 PM

The only formats broadcast are PCM stereo, DD2.0 and DD5.1.

**Ron Barry** · 08-16-07, 12:45 PM

Nice work Rob and Mike!!!!

Inviolate · 08-16-07, 09:46 PM

Does the s-video output pass an anamorphic(non chopped on sides) for recording to a DVD Recorder?

**Jason Nipp** · 08-17-07, 07:50 AM

I know TV2 in dual mode with HD content, provides the ability to output a widescreen image and the ability to hit * on TV2 remote and zoom it.

Not sure about TV1 S-Video, good question, I will look into this for you and give an answer later tonight or in the morning.

**Stewart Vernon** · 08-17-07, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Inviolate

Does the s-video output pass an anamorphic(non chopped on sides) for recording to a DVD Recorder?

Mine seems to. I have component and S-video connected to my HDTV and I run in single mode. I connected the S-video in case I ever wanted to watch SD and it looked better that way than via upconverted component.

I definately know that on the HD channels I get widescreen display on my TV through that S-video connection... though I am not sure if that functions any differently in single vs dual... but I wouldn't think so.

GravelChan · 08-17-07, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Inviolate

Does the s-video output pass an anamorphic(non chopped on sides) for recording to a DVD Recorder?

With the aspect ratio set for "Normal", TV1 s-video or composite will output a tall skinny pix whether you are on an HD or SD channel. The SD pix will have sidebars. When played back from a recording just hit "Stretch" and you have a widescreen pix if it was HD or a normal pix with sidebars for SD. To record SD from TV1 outputs in normal aspect you need to "Stretch" the pix before recording. This of course with the output of the 622 set for a widescreen TV.

**Jason Nipp** · 08-17-07, 07:59 PM

I checked, all aspect "zoom" toggles modes work fine through S-Video.

DR_LaRRY_PEpPeR · 08-26-07, 06:02 AM

Uhh, does the 722's RF output do MTS stereo?

It's my understanding that the 622 does for TV1 and TV2, but I just looked on the 722 KB page and saw "Agile RF out (mono, no MTS) ..."

Thanks for any clarification!

BobaBird · 08-26-07, 10:52 AM

That was based on an early spec sheet. I would expect it to be the same as the 622 (agile RF w/MTS for both).

dschneider · 08-27-07, 02:03 PM

I having the new vip722 installed in a couple of weeks and was wondering about cable connections -- I plan to connect it to my new HDTV via an HDMI cable along with a digital optical output to my AV receiver. Can anyone tell me if the the DISH installer will provide those cables, or do I need to buy them myself? Thanks!

Mark Lamutt · 08-27-07, 02:28 PM

Most likely the installer will not have HDMI or optical cables for you. The standard install usually includes RCA cables, an Svideo cable and Component cables.