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HD Discusson: NHL Network (Channel 215)


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#51 OFFLINE   bwaldron

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 10:56 AM

I don't believe that Canada even has an HD version of the NHL Network


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#52 OFFLINE   pablo

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 10:56 AM

Really looking forward to classic games and classic highlights.

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 11:19 AM

I assume that any games on NHL Network that feature my local team (Sabres) and are carried on my local RSN will be blacked out on the NHL Network. Does everyone think that this is a fair assumption?
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Posted 31 October 2007 - 11:22 AM

I assume that any games on NHL Network that feature my local team (Sabres) and are carried on my local RSN will be blacked out on the NHL Network. Does everyone think that this is a fair assumption?



True...but it just might be the same broadcast on The NHL Network anyways.

The game shown on the sneek preview last week was the same as the Florida FSN feed.

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 11:23 AM

I assume that any games on NHL Network that feature my local team (Sabres) and are carried on my local RSN will be blacked out on the NHL Network. Does everyone think that this is a fair assumption?


I would guess you are right:mad: we get to watch the crappy picture on msg

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 11:24 AM

I assume that any games on NHL Network that feature my local team (Sabres) and are carried on my local RSN will be blacked out on the NHL Network. Does everyone think that this is a fair assumption?


I would say so.

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 11:36 AM

I would guess you are right:mad: we get to watch the crappy picture on msg


now what would be really funny would be if the NHL Network picked up and FSN NY HD or MSG HD feed to the CONUS, but had to black it out in the NYC DMA.

That might just make me chuckle ;)

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 11:36 AM

12:07 p.m. -- The NHL Network is replaying the Thrashers/Canadiens game from last night ... and it said, "this game is being presented in TSN HD." Sooooooooo how come (even the replay) it has pillar bars on the left and right, on my HD version of the channel? Seems if it was originally presented in HD, it shouldn't be hard to replay it in HD.


I know at least on CI I don't think they have ever carried a Canadian HD feed, and TSN is canadian.

Also, the games we're getting on our NHL network are not the same games being shown on the Canadian version.

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 12:07 PM

Really looking forward to classic games and classic highlights.


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Posted 31 October 2007 - 12:20 PM

I know at least on CI I don't think they have ever carried a Canadian HD feed, and TSN is canadian.

Also, the games we're getting on our NHL network are not the same games being shown on the Canadian version.


Are you sure we are getting different games on the NHL network here?
If you look at the game schedule on the NHL Network website I think all the games involve US based teams.

http://www.tsn.ca/nh...ture/?fid=10435

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 12:24 PM

All we need now is a Center Ice Mix Channel!!!
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Posted 31 October 2007 - 12:30 PM

Are you sure we are getting different games on the NHL network here?
If you look at the game schedule on the NHL Network website I think all the games involve US based teams.

http://www.tsn.ca/nh...ture/?fid=10435


We will have to see to be sure. However, note that last Friday night's game that we saw on NHL Network here in the states during the free preview was not carried in Canada.

Not surprising they are showing US teams up there on NHL Network. Canada already has contracts in place (CBC/TSN/Sportsnet/LeafsTV/PPV...) for all games involving their teams.

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 12:43 PM

Since it appears NHL Network simply retransmits an RSN feed for live NHL games, I would think the game would be blacked out on NHL Network (in the appropriate market(s)) to force people in those areas to watch the RSN feed. I say this because the intermission report for NHL Network games is different than the RSN and they need their ad dollars.

I also think it would be quite funny to see an MSG HD or FSN NY HD feed on NHL Network. Actually, this may happen on Nov 14. Rangers play the Devils.. how will NHL Network handle that one?

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 01:13 PM

I just got off the phone with D* and they fixed my problem. This was the specific problem:

I only have the old Total Choice but I do have Center Ice. I was told that the NHL Network is part of the Total Choice Plus/Xtra package, but it should also be authorized for CI customers as well. There appears to be a problem in their programming / tiers that it is only authorizing the SD feed for CI customers.

What they had to do to fix the problem was they upgraded me to XTRA to confirm I could get the channel, he then said he made some packaging change to add the HD channel to the CI package / tier then switched me back to my old package.

I now get both the HD and SD feeds.

So according to D*, you should only get the NHL Network if you either have Total Choice Plus / Xtra and/or subscribe to the CI package.

Hope this helps those of you that are not receiving the channel but think you should be receiving it.

I do find it odd that I get Big Ten, NFL and NBA (none of which I care about) just fine, always have, but the one channel I was really looking forward to is in a higer package then the one I get. Oh well, but at least it's working now.


I suggest you take a good look at your bill online and see exactly what they did and make sure they put you back to ther old package. I had some whacky things happen, when they play games with my service, like that.

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 01:49 PM

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 01:55 PM

now what would be really funny would be if the NHL Network picked up and FSN NY HD or MSG HD feed to the CONUS, but had to black it out in the NYC DMA.

That might just make me chuckle ;)

Would be the first time D* got an HD feed from one of them...


Wouldnt' surprise me. I saw a Phillies home HD feed this year on DirecTV. And they don't even get the SD channel.
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Posted 31 October 2007 - 02:14 PM

I suggest you take a good look at your bill online and see exactly what they did and make sure they put you back to ther old package. I had some whacky things happen, when they play games with my service, like that.


Funny thing is, about a half hour later I got an email from DirecTV about a change in my service. I immediately checked online but my programming shows my old programming (before he mucked around with it) - so it looks correct. And I did try tuning into some of the other Xtra/Plus channels and all are 721, so should be ok.

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 02:30 PM

the only thing that sucks with this channel is that they don't have any exclusive games. you really don't get any games you don't get with center ice. so far the games are the only HD programming as well

nhl on the fly final is awesome though, best thing on the channel by far.

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 02:53 PM

the only thing that sucks with this channel is that they don't have any exclusive games. you really don't get any games you don't get with center ice. so far the games are the only HD programming as well


Correct, but really as was expected.

nhl on the fly final is awesome though, best thing on the channel by far.


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Posted 31 October 2007 - 03:01 PM

Thank god, I was sick of all the crying about this channel on the board.


+1 plus the fact that almost none of it is in HD. IMO NBAHD does a MUCH better job with their HD even the studio shows are in HD.
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Posted 31 October 2007 - 03:04 PM

Correct, but really as was expected.



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I don't know ... I assumed we would get the equivalent of 94/95 feeds on some games without CONUS RSNs (MSG/FSNY/ETC.) at least for the beginning of the season ...plus I hoped for some Canadian HD feeds as well ... I really didn't look at the schedule if its all Pens/Wings then yes we won't get many more games... it is just the extra features shows that will be nice to have

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 03:07 PM

IMO NBAHD does a MUCH better job with their HD even the studio shows are in HD.


Don't think anyone would argue that. I'm glad we have both channels.

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 03:15 PM

Sweet. So here's a question, I see that the Columbus vs. L.A. game tonight is listed as being available both on NHL Network and channel 94 in HD. Will this actually be 2 different feeds, or does the carriage on NHL Network just mirror a broadcast from an RSN?


It'll be an RSN broadcast. The Kings RSN broadcast will be in SD, the Jackets broadcast will be in HD. FSN West = SD. FSN Ohio = HD.

(Why FSN is allocating HD bandwidth for an away team's broadcast while the home team gets stuck with SD is a whole other frustrating topic.)

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 07:23 PM

So I ponied up the extra $5 per month for the Plus or Extra or whatever it's called, but I'm still not getting the HD channel (721), but I'm getting the SD channel fine...???

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 08:43 PM

It's the real deal folks! They took the FSN Ohio HD feed. I am surprised.:)




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