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#21 OFFLINE   cougar

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 09:34 AM

That's very interesting for me. Same DSL and vendor, and your D/L time was still roughly 75% of the programs time in a wired system. Same as my wireless times the other day.


Hi Mike, the posts I've seen stating faster download times are usually from folks using cable, so are we really slow? I thought I was doing pretty well :lol:

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 09:43 AM

Hi Mike, the posts I've seen stating faster download times are usually from folks using cable, so are we really slow? I thought I was doing pretty well :lol:


While my 6MB service tests well, certainly there are some cable services offering up to twice that speed now.

I did try something again last night and it was a bit better, but I think too that we will be subject to server loads at peak times from Directv. The only time I've tried was around 9 or 10 PM eastern.

With your direct connection experience I suspect a lot must be server load limitations.
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Posted 01 November 2007 - 07:03 PM

I have 6 MB "Phone Company" DSL service (get about 4.5-5MB routinely down).

I just got activated today (first post) and started a download of UltraViolet (Widescreen) from Starz (1 hr 35 min in length). After 12 minutes it was at 16% and I started it playing as it seems to be downloading faster than 1:1. I'm now 21 minutes in to the movie and its downloaded over 50%. Speed is fine for me... i expect i could've started watching after 5 minutes.

Now quality is another thing... but i never watch SD so i'll hold my opinion there until i see some HD content.

Overall speed wise thus far - pleasantly surprised (for SD).

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Posted 01 November 2007 - 07:54 PM

I have never gotten more than 2mb/s on my 8mb connection.

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 10:45 AM

I downloaded my first DOD program this morning, a 2-hour standard def movie, it took 1 hour and 35 minutes to download. I have AT&T DSL, the 6.0 Mbps package. I have an ethernet cable connecting the HR20 to the router.

Networking the HR20 last night was a snap, and I woke up this morning to a long list of programs available for downloading. :)


cougar,

use this site to test what you are truly getting to your dsl modem:

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

as for download times, report back what you really get after a good test. i had one jack in my house without a dsl filter causing too much noise. i'm now up to a consistent 5 mbs for the first time.

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 11:01 AM

Here's a question...what format are the VOD files in...MPEG2 or MPEG4? You'd think since the HR20 can do MPEG4, that they'd utilize it to save bandwidth...
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 12:00 PM

I did try something again last night and it was a bit better, but I think too that we will be subject to server loads at peak times from Directv. The only time I've tried was around 9 or 10 PM eastern.


Unlikely it will be from the Directv end, who is actually using Limelight Networks to store and distribute the content. (provide services to Amazon Unbox, Netflix, Microsoft (Xbox), Sony (PS3)
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 12:02 PM

cougar,

use this site to test what you are truly getting to your dsl modem:

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

as for download times, report back what you really get after a good test. i had one jack in my house without a dsl filter causing too much noise. i'm now up to a consistent 5 mbs for the first time.


I'll test it when I get home tonight. I did a speed test on another site a few weeks ago and I was getting better than 5.0, I don't remember the exact number. I need to do another test because I moved to another jack since that test. Thanks for the link :)
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 12:14 PM

I'll test it when I get home tonight. I did a speed test on another site a few weeks ago and I was getting better than 5.0, I don't remember the exact number. I need to do another test because I moved to another jack since that test. Thanks for the link :)

Here is another site with more servers to check: http://www.speedtest.net/

Also remember that while you may get a good test from these sites, that VOD is a much larger download and may have problems with your ISP. My ISP is upgrading their system for their own VOD roll out.
Both of these sites show I have my "full speed", yet VOD doesn't always come at that speed [almost never] and the last time I used it, it popped up with the message telling me there was a problem with my internet connection, about 10 min into the download. I selected fix later and it continued without further problem.
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 01:34 PM

I have only downloaded one movie. It took me roughly 2 hours to download a 2 hour movie. I have a wireless bridge connected to my HR20 (the Buffalo WLI-TX4-G54HP) and my router connected to my PC is the Buffalo WHR-HP-G54. Both of these are 802.11G with MIMO performance (not sure if that really helps or not). I also have DSL with a download speed of 2.5 to 2.6 mb according to the speed tests that someone posted a link to. As I was downloading the movie, I was able to start watching it after a few minutes. Just wish they had some high def content though.

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 01:40 PM

I noticed this issue too. It seems the download speeds just aren't up to par with it being "on demand". We tried viewing the movie "Open Season", last weekend. I started the download and even waited about 5 minutes. We started viewing the movie and within about 25-30 minutes, the movie stopped and we had
"caught up" to the point of download.

I have a 10mbps download speed and I know it was working at about that, at the time(I used the same speakeasy site mentioned in this thread).

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 02:55 PM

I noticed this issue too. It seems the download speeds just aren't up to par with it being "on demand". We tried viewing the movie "Open Season", last weekend. I started the download and even waited about 5 minutes. We started viewing the movie and within about 25-30 minutes, the movie stopped and we had
"caught up" to the point of download.

I have a 10mbps download speed and I know it was working at about that, at the time(I used the same speakeasy site mentioned in this thread).

You must have a "choke point" somewhere in your ISP. If I can get my "3 Mb/s", 30 min buffer would have worked. My last d/l was in the middle of the night [with my error message] and came through at 1:1, by the info shown [1:55 show that started & stopped in 1:55]. FWIW
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 03:50 PM

cougar,

use this site to test what you are truly getting to your dsl modem:

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

as for download times, report back what you really get after a good test. i had one jack in my house without a dsl filter causing too much noise. i'm now up to a consistent 5 mbs for the first time.


Now I'm getting better than 6.0 from speakeasy and speedtest.net. I didn't know that was possible from an "up to" 6.0 DSL package! :eek2:

I'm okay with my DOD download speeds, it seems the people who download faster usually have cable broadband connections. :)
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Posted 02 November 2007 - 05:56 PM

Well with a 7.2mbps DSL line I can start watching a program after seconds. I don't wait for the whole program to download so I don't know how long that would take.

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Posted 02 November 2007 - 06:48 PM

Unfortunately I only get about 1.5M/s down and it's pretty frustrating. Waiting 50%+ for something to finish before viewing not my cup of tea. Can anyone confirm the format that these movies are in? If they aren't mpeg-4 I think they should do some converting. That might help quite a bit.

Not to mention reducing file sizes is friendly for the internet environment. There's only so much bandwidth out there.:grin:

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Posted 03 November 2007 - 08:38 AM

This morning I'm getting a pathetic 800kbps download on DoD. I ran a speedtest WHILE I AM DOWNLOADING and this is what I got..

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So it is definitely not my internet connection.

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Posted 03 November 2007 - 09:35 AM

This morning I'm getting a pathetic 800kbps download on DoD. I ran a speedtest WHILE I AM DOWNLOADING and this is what I got..

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So it is definitely not my internet connection.

"Definitely"?
It still could be your ISP connecting to D*. Clearly the video is being choked while a local server "burst" isn't.
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Posted 03 November 2007 - 12:01 PM

"Definitely"?
It still could be your ISP connecting to D*. Clearly the video is being choked while a local server "burst" isn't.


That's not a local burst. In any event, I have the DoD download going and also a ReplayTV receive going now. The ReplayTV receive is getting 1.2mb/s and the DTV download is still getting 800kb/s. :(

I just ran another speedtest and got the following from a Los Angeles server to rule out the "local burst" theory.

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3.6mb/s down with me already using 2mb/s, so I'll still say...it's definitely not my ISP - locally at least.

It appears that DTV is using Limelight Networks for their video hosting. My firewall traffic logs show http requests from the HR20 to 69.28.159.141, which RDNS'es to rdcds4.iad.llnw.net which I think may be a "Content Distribution Server". Perhaps IAD is Washington, DC?

[root@ATLANTIS init.d]# traceroute 69.28.159.141
traceroute to 69.28.159.141 (69.28.159.141), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  stargate.ebaymom.net (192.168.100.1)  1.233 ms  1.115 ms  1.100 ms
 2  * * *
 3  REMOVED  20.671 ms  12.157 ms  11.696 ms
 4  te-9-1-ur02.d1stonemtn.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.150)  13.136 ms  9.270 ms  9.720 ms
 5  te-9-1-ur01.d1stonemtn.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.154)  12.238 ms  10.227 ms  9.405 ms
 6  te-9-2-ar01.d1stonemtn.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.158)  26.131 ms  22.123 ms  11.887 ms
 7  te-9-1-ar01.b0atlanta.ga.atlanta.comcast.net (68.86.106.1)  11.778 ms  12.662 ms  12.994 ms
 8  64.209.107.54 (64.209.107.54)  13.634 ms  11.959 ms  14.110 ms
 9  64.209.107.53 (64.209.107.53)  114.853 ms  109.269 ms  18.194 ms
10  64.214.140.78 (64.214.140.78)  12.190 ms  11.392 ms  14.706 ms
11  ve5.fr4.atl1.llnw.net (68.142.119.194)  14.100 ms  11.911 ms  13.960 ms
12  tge1-2.fr4.iad.llnw.net (69.28.172.34)  28.754 ms  28.482 ms  29.157 ms
13  ve5.fr3.iad.llnw.net (69.28.171.213)  30.763 ms  33.438 ms  36.268 ms
14  rdcds4.iad.llnw.net (69.28.159.141)  29.597 ms  34.837 ms  38.193 ms
[root@ATLANTIS init.d]# 

Acceptible latency to them. I wish I had a way to do a reverse traceroute FROM them.

Speedtest to Washington, DC is great...

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I really wish I could figure out what the secret to multi-mb/sec downloads is. It look over an hour to download a family guy episode. :(

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Posted 03 November 2007 - 01:07 PM

That's not a local burst. In any event, I really wish I could figure out what the secret to multi-mb/sec downloads is. It look over an hour to download a family guy episode. :(

Well please post it if you ever do find out.
I have my ISP's western regional network guru trying to figure it out.
I have only a 3 Mb/s connection and my HR-20 seems to pull only 1.5 Mb/s.

What happens if you d/l in the middle of the night?
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Posted 03 November 2007 - 01:19 PM

dervari....what program are you using to see the
speed of the hr20 DL's....thanks




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