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#1 OFFLINE   Newby1

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 06:47 PM

I just installed a new 1tb drive and don't think I'm getting the full 1tb. Is there a way to check this??

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#2 OFFLINE   Michael D'Angelo

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 06:49 PM

Welcome to DBSTalk

There is no way to tell.

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 06:49 PM

Fill it up completely and count the hours you've recorded.
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#4 OFFLINE   boltjames

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 11:23 PM

Welcome to DBSTalk

There is no way to tell.


Are you guys saying that with an eSata drive connected, the "percentage free" bar at the bottom of the recordings list is inaccurate?

I'm thinking of upgrading my capacity with an external drive, but if I really don't know how much free space I have it's not going to be as enjoyable.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 12:12 AM

I have a 1TB external drive, and i have seen no reason to believe that the usage bar is inaccurate.

I would like to know exactly why you dont think you are getting the full recording capacity of your drive?

#6 OFFLINE   Michael D'Angelo

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 08:32 AM

Are you guys saying that with an eSata drive connected, the "percentage free" bar at the bottom of the recordings list is inaccurate?

I'm thinking of upgrading my capacity with an external drive, but if I really don't know how much free space I have it's not going to be as enjoyable.

BJ


No, it is accurate but there is no way to tell if you are actually using the entire 1TB drive. You should be or just about using the entire thing but there is no way to tell that.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 06:55 PM

I have a 1TB external drive, and i have seen no reason to believe that the usage bar is inaccurate.

I would like to know exactly why you don't think you are getting the full recording capacity of your drive?


Well I only have 4 hrs on the new drive, of which 1hr is SD and the other 3 are mpeg 4 HD. My service bar is at 97%. That means the drive is only going to hold roughly 200 hrs of my mix of recordings, which is well below the 200+ mpeg 4 HD hrs I should be able to record.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 07:00 PM

Well I only have 4 hrs on the new drive, of which 1hr is SD and the other 3 are mpeg 4 HD. My service bar is at 97%. That means the drive is only going to hold roughly 200 hrs of my mix of recordings, which is well below the 200+ mpeg 4 HD hrs I should be able to record.


Some thing does not seem right. You should be able to record about 225 hours of MEPG4 HD.

You may want to try to reformat the hard drive before you get to much on there and see if that helps. But I would see if anyone else agrees with this first.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 07:11 PM

No, it is accurate but there is no way to tell if you are actually using the entire 1TB drive. You should be or just about using the entire thing but there is no way to tell that.


Ah, gotcha. Thanks.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 07:47 PM

Also remember that DirecTV blocks off some amount of the drive for its exclusive use. It keeps Showcases and other items there. I can't remember how much it will reserve, but you should be able to do a search on the hr20 forum to find it.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 07:47 PM

Some thing does not seem right. You should be able to record about 225 hours of MEPG4 HD.

You may want to try to reformat the hard drive before you get to much on there and see if that helps. But I would see if anyone else agrees with this first.



Isn't the system still going to reserve, is it like 10% for D* content? Maybe this is the difference...
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Posted 01 December 2007 - 07:50 PM

Isn't the system still going to reserve, is it like 10% for D* content? Maybe this is the difference...


DirecTV reserves 100GB. So he still should have 900GB to record.

The internal drive is 300GB or 320GB depending on HD DVR. Those units should be able to record about 50 hours of MPEG4 HD.

So he should be able to record about 4.5 times that amount.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 08:49 PM

DirecTV reserves 100GB. So he still should have 900GB to record.

The internal drive is 300GB or 320GB depending on HD DVR. Those units should be able to record about 50 hours of MPEG4 HD.

So he should be able to record about 4.5 times that amount.


And setting up an eSata, is it just as simple as plugging it in and rebooting? You lose what's on the resident internal drive but can start recording on the new eSata drive immediately upon a restart?

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 08:53 PM

And setting up an eSata, is it just as simple as plugging it in and rebooting? You lose what's on the resident internal drive but can start recording on the new eSata drive immediately upon a restart?

BJ


You need to restart the HR20 and when the front panel lights go off the unit is actually off for a few seconds. Pull the power cord when that happens.

Then plug the eSATA cable into the eSATA drive and then into the HR20.

Plug the power into the eSATA drive and let it start up and then plug the HR20 back in. When it starts up it will set everything up for you.

Your recordings on the internal drive will still be on the internal drive and if you want to view them you need to just disconnect the eSATA drive and reboot. Then the HR20 will boot up using the internal drive.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 09:02 PM

DirecTV reserves 100GB. So he still should have 900GB to record.

The internal drive is 300GB or 320GB depending on HD DVR. Those units should be able to record about 50 hours of MPEG4 HD.

So he should be able to record about 4.5 times that amount.


uhhh....how do you figure?

300/320gb drive = roughly 50 hrs Mpeg4 HD
1tb drive is 3.3 times the size of a 300gb drive.
so
50 x 3.3 = 166 hrs give or take a few.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 09:04 PM

uhhh....how do you figure?

300/320gb drive = roughly 50 hrs Mpeg4 HD
1tb drive is 3.3 times the size of a 300gb drive.
so
50 x 3.3 = 166 hrs give or take a few.

Am I missing something? :confused:


300/320GB-100GB(DirecTV reserves)=200/220GB

1000GB-100GB(DirecTV reserves)=900GB

900GB is 4.5 times as much as 200GB and almost the same for 220GB

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 09:06 PM

I thought I read somewhere a pretty long while back that it takes some usage before the full capacity of the external drive is realized and the meter becomes fairly accurate.

then again maybe not.....

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 09:12 PM

300/320GB-100GB(DirecTV reserves)=200/220GB

1000GB-100GB(DirecTV reserves)=900GB

900GB is 4.5 times as much as 200GB and almost the same for 220GB


That makes sense. Assuming that it is a fixed amount for Directvs use.

But it looks like its using a percentage.

If you take my rough 166hrs and the OPs used 4 hours, I get roughly 97.5% free.

Maybe something changed? Maybe it works differently with esata? :confused:
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Posted 01 December 2007 - 09:25 PM

You need to restart the HR20 and when the front panel lights go off the unit is actually off for a few seconds. Pull the power cord when that happens.

Then plug the eSATA cable into the eSATA drive and then into the HR20.

Plug the power into the eSATA drive and let it start up and then plug the HR20 back in. When it starts up it will set everything up for you.

Your recordings on the internal drive will still be on the internal drive and if you want to view them you need to just disconnect the eSATA drive and reboot. Then the HR20 will boot up using the internal drive.


Just a quick note, I don't even unplug my external drive. If you simply turn the drive off and reboot it will return to the internal drive. That is if yours has a power switch, which mine does. Just thought I would put that out there. It is a hole lot easier than unplugging the eSATA cable from the back of the HR20.

As for the drive I will just keep my eye on the meter and the hours recorded. As great as I think the memory meter bar is I would still like to be able to find out how many hours I can record like on the HR10-250. Add it to the wish list, if its not already there.

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Posted 02 December 2007 - 11:54 AM

300/320GB-100GB(DirecTV reserves)=200/220GB

1000GB-100GB(DirecTV reserves)=900GB

900GB is 4.5 times as much as 200GB and almost the same for 220GB


You also have to remember that because of the way the industry measures HD space, a formatted 1TB drive is really only going to be something just over 900GB when formatted. so in reality after its formatted in the DVR there is about 800GB available for user recordings.




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