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DirecTV QuickHits: Tuner Add-On; PC Video Access; PC Device; HR-PRO


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#51 OFFLINE   Earl Bonovich

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:00 PM

I'm just curious as to why this add on tuner is as big as the HR21 when the HR20 has the ATSC tuners built in ( I can't remember if the HR20 has two or one tuner).


The HR20 has two tuners.

As for why?

Sizing on a rack/av components.

It being the same size, it just blends visually better...
And allows a lighter component to still be stacked on top of it (like a DVD player or something of that nature)

Or to easily be mounted in a rack as it is not larger then 1U... with some of the same type of mounting equipment out there for the existing products.
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#52 OFFLINE   breevesdc

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:01 PM

The tuner will communicate with an XBOX360... so basically you will now have a Dual Tuner for DirecTV for your XBOX360


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Sorry! I didn't see that someone else already asked this question and Earl already answered it.
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So the HDPC020 has two tuners inside and (presumably) 2 SAT-IN connections?

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:01 PM

On the services side....new channels et al....will there be anything announced on that?
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:02 PM

Earl - you have no idea how happy you have made me as many of us Vista people have been crying and many were ready to leave for HR21s.

I love VISTA Media Center but I can't take much more of the S-Video :)

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:03 PM

Earl,

Thanks for the updates! Can't wait to see pics/docs...
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:04 PM

Any words on MRV, please?

If we can view programs on PC, why can't we view them on a different HR20 or HR21? We are so close. Why not just travel the last mile.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:06 PM

What kind of PC are they hooking this up to, brand, model?
What is required on the PC side?


Can we get this info?
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:06 PM

The tuner will communicate with an XBOX360... so basically you will now have a Dual Tuner for DirecTV for your XBOX360

Wow. I want. :D

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:07 PM

AM21 - ATSC Tuner Add for the HR21 line


Awesome! Very nice implementation. To DirecTV and all the "we must have details now" crowd... it pays to wait for things to be fully baked!
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:09 PM

Any words on MRV, please?

If we can view programs on PC, why can't we view them on a different HR20 or HR21? We are so close. Why not just travel the last mile.


Good question for if this were to be enabled the OTA tuner on the HR21 would not be as big a deal for me because I could record my ota programs on the HR20 and my sat programs on the HR21 and watch them on either box.
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:11 PM

I didn't see the tuner solution, but I looked at the MediaShare to PC extensively. You could select which DVR you were connected to. You could browse the Playlist and choose a program. Once the program started, you could take the mouse and click on the bar to any point in the program.

This is a streaming solution only.

Earl, where was the HDPC20?

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:11 PM

Why don't they just start putting them inside the DVR like the HR20. I have always thought they messed up not having the OTA tuner like the HR20. Maybe they planned this and figured it would be a good source of revenue. THose who want one willl buy it. Most don't use them maybe? I am in the minority as most on this site are when it comes to fully utilizing what our DVR's have to offer.


The reasoning is, most people don't want or need OTA. Therefore putting the tuners inside every HR21 costs much more than offering it as an add-on feature.

There is no gospel that says DirecTV or anyone else must have digital OTA capability on their satellite HD receivers.

That said, I would like them to put their money where their mouth is and lower the price of the HR21 as long as it is cheaper to make now, and particularly (I assume) because they will be making money on the customers who want this device badly enough to pay for one.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:12 PM

The tuner will communicate with an XBOX360... so basically you will now have a Dual Tuner for DirecTV for your XBOX360



unless there has been a dramatic shift in how this works, that's not exactly correct. The tuner must be hooked up to a media center PC, the 360 is simply an extender. In other words, you can't just hook the tuner up to the 360 and have it work.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:14 PM

I didn't see the tuner solution, but I looked at the MediaShare to PC extensively. You could select which DVR you were connected to. You could browse the Playlist and choose a program. Once the program started, you could take the mouse and click on the bar to any point in the program.

This is a streaming solution only.

Earl, where was the HDPC20?


If they are gonna go that far, you might as well allow downloading.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:19 PM

unless there has been a dramatic shift in how this works, that's not exactly correct. The tuner must be hooked up to a media center PC, the 360 is simply an extender. In other words, you can't just hook the tuner up to the 360 and have it work.


I am sure what he means to say as it will allow a 360 to control it VIA Media Center.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:19 PM

Any words on MRV?

If we can view programs on PC, why not on a different HR20/21?

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:23 PM

So what is the timeline for the HDPC device? We have been waiting since the 2005 CES for something like this from D*!

It is nice to see you have seen a functioning unit :grin:

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:24 PM

Can't wait to see the pictures.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:24 PM

HDPC20 - PC Add On
-) USB External solution for the PC
-) Acts as a TUNER for your media PC
-) Approximately the size of the modern Western Digital External HardDrive


This is GREAT news. I used a Media Center 2005 PC for ~2 years using analog cable. The interface and flexibility of using a PC in this way were exceptional. I more or less gave up on this approach when moving over to HD with Comcast, and *had* to use their cable box. There were solutions (Vista + cablecard tuners) to getting HD on the Media Center PC, but it was still very limited. I switched to Directv about 2 months ago due to their better HD line up and cost. I'd LOVE to move to a Vista Media Center whole-home solution using Directv tuners, a main Vista Media PC and several extenders! Centralized DVR storage, MRV, etc. !!! Great to see that Directv is working toward this goal!!!:grin:

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:26 PM

I am sure what he means to say as it will allow a 360 to control it VIA Media Center.


That will require an update on the 360 or an on-the-fly transcode of the video stream from MPEG-4 on the Media Center PC. MPEG-4 is not yet supported in the Xbox extender software. (It is supported on some third-party extenders right now.)

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:28 PM

MPEG-4 is not yet supported in the Xbox extender software. (It is supported on some third-party extenders right now.)


Wasn't H.264 included in the Fall Update for the XBox360 Dashboard? (I don't do much media streaming from the PC side and don't recall).

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:28 PM

My goal -
2 - HD OTA Tuners
4 - DirecTV HDPC20s

Feeding 3 Extenders around the house via Gigabit LAN.
Would love the VOD, etc for D* but not by any means a showstopper.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:30 PM

Wasn't H.264 included in the Fall Update for the XBox360 Dashboard? (I don't do much media streaming from the PC side and don't recall).


Yes but it doesn't work as a Media Center Extender... only for playing files directly
from the network.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:30 PM

I am sure what he means to say as it will allow a 360 to control it VIA Media Center.


I think so, I just wanted to clear it up for those that don't know a ton about media center.

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Posted 07 January 2008 - 02:36 PM

Any words on MRV?

If we can view programs on PC, why not on a different HR20/21?


I agree. Many of us have no interest in a Media Center PC implementation. I personally, would be glad to pay for a few more HR20s or HR21s with MRV though.

MRV solves a lot of problems (storage space, conflicts on satellite tuners, being able to function with only on DVR having OTA, etc.). These are a lot of the problems that the larger subscriber base have raised as concerns.

While I will not begrudge anyone the joy of a new offering for their Media Center PC, I think DirecTV is missing the point here. How do they think they will effectively sell a Media Center solution when so many are having difficulties plugging in the ethernet cable for their HR20?




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