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My current conversation with Sky Angel


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#41 OFFLINE   James Long

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Posted 05 March 2008 - 01:11 AM

EchoStar's replacement for E3 launches in 9 days 17 hours 7 minutes or so (March 14th, 7:18pm ET).

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 02:02 PM

Thanks for the update, James.

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 12:17 PM

Oops - http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=122797

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 07:14 AM

EchoStar's replacement for E3 launches in 9 days 17 hours 7 minutes or so (March 14th, 7:18pm ET).

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Did Amc fail when launched?
And what orbital slot will it be at....ie.. 61.5,,,110,,,118 ?

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 12:27 PM

AMC-14 was (and still is) planned for 61.5°.

Best case scenario it will still get there. Perhaps a little late ... certainly with a limited life span ... but it appears that it survived the launch well enough that it can still be moved into place.

Worst case scenario some other satellite will go there to replace E3.

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 06:38 PM

AMC-14 was (and still is) planned for 61.5°.

Best case scenario it will still get there. Perhaps a little late ... certainly with a limited life span ... but it appears that it survived the launch well enough that it can still be moved into place.

Worst case scenario some other satellite will go there to replace E3.


so what will this sat serve purpose for,,, Local hd or Nation hd channels?

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 09:45 PM

National HD and freeing transponders for local HD (from 61.5°).

BTW: We do have a DISH Network forum where we discuss this stuff. :)

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 07:53 AM

It may be true that we should "Shake the dust off our sandals and move on". The problem is they are claiming to be a Christian Company and Christians need to defend the faith. We need to stop companies that claim to be Christian from falling the way of the world (i.e. lying to subscribers, terminating agreements, etc).

I tried to ask them what those of us without their range of Internet speed was supposed to do. They told me and I quote: "That's not our problem. There are ways you can look into upgrading your internet." I told "Steve" that my area can not get internet at 1.5MBPS and he said "Well it looks like we can't do anything for you. Have a great day," and he hung up. Sky Angel has not returned any emails or registered letters (yet they have received the registered letters). Just a note: Secular Dish Network has returned most of my emails (there are only a few that didn't come back). But their CSR's seem to be a little friendlier anyway.

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 08:52 AM

If you dispassionately, regularly police the many companies who claim to be Christian (usually with good reason), then you would naturally include Sky Angel in your rounds.

If you're just feeling hurt or cheesed, and you're looking for a reason for vengeance, then maybe that idea of letting go of your anger and moving on to do good elsewhere might be the best thing to do.

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 12:04 AM

The fact of the matter is clear: Sky Angel painted a beautiful picture 6 or so years ago. They ingrained into our heads, "LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP. Hooray!!! Just send us $399.00 and you're set.


Now, their tune has changed. I can't believe that if they give us lifers IPTV at a minimal ongoing cost to them, that it will break and destroy them. Are they really running on a shoestring budget? Are they really living month-to-month?


I've said it before, and I'll say it again: They can afford to keep their promise to us if they wanted to. The small amount of money they would be losing would be offset by the POTENTIALLY HUGE profit they stand to make in the future.


Is it possible that they may have dollar signs in their eyes? Is it just possible?

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 12:42 AM

Nancy.Christopher@SkyAngel dot com
Is no longer valid. Has it been deleted in order to not hear any more from us Lifetime Subscribers?

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 04:27 AM

That seems to be the conspiracy theory. The deed is done anyways ...whining is not going to change one thing at this point.

And yes, IPTV costs money ... allowing "free" access to the SkyAngel channels was simply enabling the receivers and walking away. The channels had to be there for the recurring payment customers who were helping to keep the system running. (Plus the trade deal with E* made satellite carriage free. SkyAngel was running a cashless operation other than billing, program production, advertising, paying their staff and investing in their future. Until they had to pay for the secular family channels, that is.)

Unless NeuLion is giving them free bandwidth it costs SkyAngel for every viewer. Providing lifelong members with channels is no longer "free" for them.

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 06:45 AM

From http://ekb.dbstalk.com/skyangel.htm, which took this from the Dominion Video Services Lifetime Subscription Agreement:

4.) The primary source of funding for the Dominion DBS Television and Radio System is expected to come from individual subscribers paying either an ongoing monthly subscription fee or by prepaying a lump-sum subscription for a period of years, During the first 30 months of operation DVS offered lifelong subscriptions for a one-time payment which is being discontinued for any new subscribers, For those who purchased the lifelong subscription it will last for the operating lifetime of the Dominion Sky Angel domestic U.S. DBS service and for the lifetime of the subscriber and his or her spouse without any further monthly subscription fees and includes a minimum of 32 television and radio channels selected at Dominion's sole discretion, Once a lifelong subscription is activated to receive Sky Angel programming it is non-assignable and non-transferable.


The Dominion Sky Angel domestic U.S. DBS service has reached the end of its lifetime. Those of you with lifetime subscriptions (and paid your $399) got a good deal, as 10 years at $14.99/mo would have cost you 179.88/year, or $1798.80 for 10 years.

Now, how exactly are you feeling slighted? At least they gave you fair warning, rather than doing what some companies would do and just "flip the switch".

I recommend subscribing to DISHFamily. Yes, the monthly rate is slightly more expensive ($19.99/mo or $24.99/mo with local channels) than Sky Angel, but you pick up many of the same channels plus several more - a total of more than 40 channels. Most subscribers already have the required satellite locations - all Sky Angel subscribers have access to the 61.5 location, and many have access to either 119 or both 119/110.
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Posted 29 March 2008 - 11:43 AM

The beginning monthly fee was $9 dollars, not $14.99.

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 04:38 PM

Yes, the monthly rate is slightly more expensive ($19.99/mo or $24.99/mo with local channels) than Sky Angel,

Matt, you're forgetting the audience. These are people who paid one price for "lifelong" viewing. Nothing is "slightly" more expensive than the "no monthly / no annual fee" service they are losing. :)

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Posted 31 March 2008 - 06:26 AM

I received an email from Sky Angel last week entitled "It's time to rekindle your faith in television" It went on to describe the new Sky Angel IPTV and all it had to offer me.
:lol: I was literally laughing out loud. I responded briefly (couldn't respond to Nancy C., her address is dead so I sent it to info@skyangel.com) with:
I don't think there is much SkyAngel can do to rekindle my faith in television - at least not television delivered by SkyAngel. Skyangel has done myself and many lifetime subscribers wrong. In a few days we will have no more appropriate television in our home. I am raising my children alone and have been since my husband left shortly after our 8th child was born. The last thing I can afford is to incur another bill.
I certainly wouldn't send any more money to Skyangel.

Of course, I've received no response.
Todays the last day for TVU! (and all the rest of the programming we love)
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Posted 31 March 2008 - 09:42 AM

I recommend subscribing to DISHFamily. Yes, the monthly rate is slightly more expensive ($19.99/mo or $24.99/mo with local channels) than Sky Angel, but you pick up many of the same channels plus several more - a total of more than 40 channels. Most subscribers already have the required satellite locations - all Sky Angel subscribers have access to the 61.5 location, and many have access to either 119 or both 119/110.


The new DISH Essential Service package may be a better option for many who lose SA service. I just subbed to it starting Saturday P.M. For just $9.99/month you get:

MSNBC
The Weather Channel
Food
HGTV
Hallmark
Boomerang
Bloomberg
Discovery Kids
TLC
History
TBS
Comedy Central
AMC
and several others

I also get several channels that weren't listed in the initial offer, but with which I'm so far pretty happy. Apparently, these "extra" channels can vary some from subscriber to subscriber, and it's not guaranteed you will get them.

I'm also getting TBN, Angel One, Angel Two, KTV, 3ABN and EWTN. Don't know if all those Christian channels are permanent, but I suspect they will be (and I also think more will be added). If you haven't been getting the free P.I. pack, you may have to ask for it in addition to your other programming.

You can add your locals (if available) for an extra $5.00/month. If you don't have locals available, you may be able to add San Francisco and Atlanta distants through All-America Direct.

You CANNOT add movie channels, or any other programming tier besides the above listed options.


I know DISH isn't promoting this Essential Service package heavily--of course, they'd rather have people sub to DISHFamily (more $$$ to them). But for half the price, Essential Service does just as good a job meeting my family's viewing needs.

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Posted 31 March 2008 - 09:51 AM

You may be getting "Free Previews" channels.

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Posted 31 March 2008 - 09:54 AM

You may be getting "Free Previews" channels.


Yes, History International, Fox Reality, and Biography are all in free preview mode this month, and I am getting them.

BTW, if anyone is interested in the Essentials Package, you MUST call an account specialist at 888-773-2162. Do not expect a regular CSR to be able to help you with this package.

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Posted 31 March 2008 - 10:17 AM

I'm currently staying with DISH. I am really upset about losing my TVU, but I'm hoping that there is someway we can get TVU added to the Music Video Channel line-up with Dish Network and even DirecTV since they don't charge to uplink their programming...it's not like they don't have enough secular video channels (a few are barely watched at all)...why not add a Christian video channel such as TVU? Maybe we should all write letters to Dish (since we already have their equipment) and request they add it.




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