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#76 OFFLINE   K4SMX

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 01:26 PM

I believe the HR21-100 is manufactured by RCA (Thomson) and not Phillips. :)

And these days it's just plain Thomson, headquartered in Paris. They bought RCA's consumer electronics line some years ago. Royal Philips, N.V. is headquartered in the Netherlands and is a separate company.
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#77 OFFLINE   bobnielsen

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 02:16 PM

I think that division of Thomson was recently sold to Audiovox (who had previously bought another part of Thomson).

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 03:04 PM

RCA, Thomson. Royal Philips, Audiovox.......................

I'm so confused:confused: :P :kickbutt: :lol:

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#79 OFFLINE   K4SMX

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Posted 01 March 2008 - 03:20 PM

I think that division of Thomson was recently sold to Audiovox (who had previously bought another part of Thomson).

"On December 21, 2006, Thomson SA agreed to sell its consumer electronics accessory business, including rights to the RCA name on such products, to Audiovox" (Source: Wikipedia re: Audiovox)

I think that had to do with patch cords and so forth.

"On October 16 2007, Thomson SA agreed to sell its consumer electronics audio video business outside Europe including the worldwide rights to the RCA Brand for consumer electronics audio video products." (Wikipedia)

I'm not sure what this covered. Have you got some more definitive source? The Thomson main website still shows that they are a major supplier to DirecTV (and Comcast). Of course, that was 3 weeks ago when I was doing research for this First Look, so it may have changed hands twice since then. :)
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 11:50 AM

I've had an HR20-700 since October 2006. The D* site doesn't list any of the newer models as being available for purchase (or upgrade). How/where do you buy these newer models?

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 11:55 AM

The D* site doesn't list any of the newer models as being available for purchase (or upgrade). How/where do you buy these newer models?

The DirecTV site doesn't list any models at all. It just has a generic picture of the HR20. When you order from DirecTV, you will get an HR21. If you go to a store, you will most likely only find HR21s. Aside from the lack of an OTA tuner, the HR21 is exactly the same as the HR20. Unless you really want a black receiver, there is no reason to switch from an HR20 to an HR21.

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 11:58 AM

Thanks for that info. So the guts are exactly the same -- only the exterior is different? What about the HR21-100? I see that Best Buy has an HR21-600. Is this the same as the HR21-700?

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 12:00 PM

Thanks for that info. So the guts are exactly the same -- only the exterior is different? What about the HR21-100? I see that Best Buy has an HR21-600. Is this the same as the HR21-700?


There is no such thing as an HR21-600. It is something stupid Best Buy does.

Do a search for HR21-600 and you will find a few threads about it.

I actually believe the units they have is HR21-700.

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 12:02 PM

So the guts are exactly the same -- only the exterior is different?

The guts are essentially the same. There are differences in internal layouts between the five different models, but they're all functionally the same.

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 08:06 PM

I just bought a HR21-200 from Best Buy. I saw a price card for a 600 and 700. However they did not have any of those anywhere. They only had the 200 models, in black of course. When I saw all those different #s I could not remember from this site which ones were which. So I called D* while I was at the store. I asked him what the differences were and he replied that the higher the 2nd # is the newer the software version is on it. But he said as soon as it downloads the latest software then they are exactly the same. Now, Is that the truth? Only the higher powers will ever know. Unless we buy one of each and start disecting each one.

Is there anywhere on here that explains the differences in the HR-21's?

#86 OFFLINE   Michael D'Angelo

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 08:08 PM

I just bought a HR21-200 from Best Buy. I saw a price card for a 600 and 700. However they did not have any of those anywhere. They only had the 200 models, in black of course. When I saw all those different #s I could not remember from this site which ones were which. So I called D* while I was at the store. I asked him what the differences were and he replied that the higher the 2nd # is the newer the software version is on it. But he said as soon as it downloads the latest software then they are exactly the same. Now, Is that the truth? Only the higher powers will ever know. Unless we buy one of each and start disecting each one.

Is there anywhere on here that explains the differences in the HR-21's?


First of all there is no HR21-600. It is something stupid Best Buy does to the model numbers. There is only a -700, -200, and -100.

All three units are the same and are able to do the same thing. The insides are laid out a little different but that is it.

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 08:12 PM

And they were introduced in the order 700, 200, 100, so in this case, the lower the manufacturer number, the "newer" the design is. But really, they are functionally identical.

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Posted 02 March 2008 - 08:23 PM

I asked him what the differences were and he replied that the higher the 2nd # is the newer the software version is on it.


the only thing the 2nd number designates is the manufacturer of the box...
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Posted 02 March 2008 - 08:37 PM

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:05 AM

Hey Raven Man, Calm down........ While I was at BB I did not know about this "Stupid Best Buy" thing. Thats why I calledD*, because they did have a 600 listed. But the D* said just the oppisite, he said the higher the #, the newer it is. He is ass backwards.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 06:58 AM

Hey Raven Man, Calm down........ While I was at BB I did not know about this "Stupid Best Buy" thing. Thats why I calledD*, because they did have a 600 listed. But the D* said just the oppisite, he said the higher the #, the newer it is. He is ass backwards.

Not a big deal either way....Best Buy has misnumbered before.

The HR21-700 came first, followed by the -200 a few months back, and now the -100. Different manufacturers...same basic DVR.
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#92 OFFLINE   Michael D'Angelo

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 07:48 AM

Hey Raven Man, Calm down........ While I was at BB I did not know about this "Stupid Best Buy" thing. Thats why I calledD*, because they did have a 600 listed. But the D* said just the oppisite, he said the higher the #, the newer it is. He is ass backwards.


I apologize. I just look at my reply to you and it does not sound like what I wanted it to say. I was just trying to say that Best Buy for whatever reason changed the model number and they do it a lot. I just wanted to let you know that was the deal.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 08:00 PM

The HR21-700 came first, followed by the -200 a few months back, and now the -100. Different manufacturers...same basic DVR.

And, while the manufacturer codes do get smaller as the receivers get newer, this is just a coincidence. That code is for who makes the recevier, not the order in which it came out.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:00 PM

Great write up guys.
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 05:24 PM

Nice Work Everyone. As luck would have it and as of today, I am the proud owner of an HR21-100. Go to run! Have to set up my to do list.
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Posted 07 March 2008 - 05:41 PM

Nice Work Everyone. As luck would have it and as of today, I am the proud owner of an HR21-100. Go to run! Have to set up my to do list.


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Posted 30 July 2008 - 06:12 PM

Nice work everyone!



I know it's a little late, but I just read it and boy is it good.
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