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DVR/Receiver Purchase Advice


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#1 OFFLINE   oldtech

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 10:04 AM

I am a current Dish Network customer running one dual-LNB dish and two old 301 receivers. My plan is to have DN upgrade the dish to quad-LNB and add two additional RG-6 runs, one to each TV location (2), and replace 301's with DVR/receivers. From their web site, it looks like DN no longer sells DVR's and receivers, but leases them (I own the 301's from ages ago). My question is whether there are sources from which I can purchase the DVR/receivers rather than having to lease them from DN and what problems, if any, does that cause me from DN to connect equipment they do not provide?

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 10:20 AM

My question is whether there are sources from which I can purchase the DVR/receivers rather than having to lease them from DN and what problems, if any, does that cause me from DN to connect equipment they do not provide?

If you're going from a 301 to a DVR, I highly recommend not going with legacy LNBs. You would need to run a second wire and that's just wrong. The DPP Twin will serve one or two DVRs and you wouldn't have to run any extra cable.

As for the lease versus buy question, you can certainly buy a receiver (~$350 for a 625) but the question that comes next is why? There is little to no financial benefit (unless your area tax structure makes owning significantly cheaper). The break-even is quite long when the monthly fees are the same either way.

If it were me, I'd just lease a 625 or a 722 and take both of the 301s off line. You'll find out why buying doesn't make any sense if you try to sell the 301s.


In this ever changing landscape of technology, it is best not to enter into any acquisition process with lots of preconceived notions about what you want or need as you might miss out on something that meets your needs even better.

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 11:15 AM

If you're going from a 301 to a DVR, I highly recommend not going with legacy LNBs. You would need to run a second wire and that's just wrong. The DPP Twin will serve one or two DVRs and you wouldn't have to run any extra cable.

As for the lease versus buy question, you can certainly buy a receiver (~$350 for a 625) but the question that comes next is why? There is little to no financial benefit (unless your area tax structure makes owning significantly cheaper). The break-even is quite long when the monthly fees are the same either way.

If it were me, I'd just lease a 625 or a 722 and take both of the 301s off line. You'll find out why buying doesn't make any sense if you try to sell the 301s.


In this ever changing landscape of technology, it is best not to enter into any acquisition process with lots of preconceived notions about what you want or need as you might miss out on something that meets your needs even better.



Harsh,

Thanks so much for the quick reply and advice!

I understand the lease/purchase and will check out both the 625 and the 722.

On the antenna and coax feeds, I am not so clear. The antenna I have is a DP Twin according to the Diagnostics page under the System Setup. From it, there are two RG-6 runs, one to each TV location, and each is connected to a 301. If I replace each 301 with a DVR/receiver and have the capability at each TV location to simultaneously record one channel and watch a different channel, do I not have to have dual RG-6 runs from the antenna to each DVR/receiver?

Sorry to be so thickheaded on this stuff.

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 12:50 PM

Currently available DVRs are all dual-tuner models that require both tuner inputs to be fed. Most are also 2-room receivers, so you could replace both 301s with a single 625 and not worry about the dish.

If you want a dual-tuner DVR in each room, then you need to either run the extra lines, or replace the DP Twin (not dual as first stated) with a DPP Twin. DishPro Plus switching allows single-wire installation of a dual-tuner receiver with the 2 tuners fed by a DPP Separator that "splits" the signal. Legacy and regular DP require 2 lines from the switch.
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Posted 17 March 2008 - 11:33 PM

Even I am confused by BobaBird's explanation.

If you use a DPP Twin LNB, you can feed any compatible DVR with a single coax. Know also that a 625 or 622/722 will independently feed two televisons.

In the grand scheme, a DPP Twin LNB is cheaper than buying a DP34 and it saves you all the trouble of running extra wires.

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 08:35 AM

Even I am confused by BobaBird's explanation.

If you use a DPP Twin LNB, you can feed any compatible DVR with a single coax. Know also that a 625 or 622/722 will independently feed two televisons.

In the grand scheme, a DPP Twin LNB is cheaper than buying a DP34 and it saves you all the trouble of running extra wires.



Harsh,

Thanks so much. Think I've got it, so now all I have to do is be sure that DN "gets it" when I call.




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