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Netflix $99 Set Top Box Announced


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#1 OFFLINE   LarryFlowers

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 12:57 PM

on The Register this AM http://www.theregist...downloads_roku/

Netflix will begin selling its set top streaming box for $99, and will start the service with 10000 titles available. The box is made by Silicon Valley start up Roku and is available on their web site. It has connections for all types of TV including HDMI and the box is "capable" of handling HD although there is no indication that this is available at this time.

There is also listing I have found yet for the 10000+ titles, If this similar to their online streaming service for the PC, there is very little I would watch through this box. On the other hand, if they start to offer new release in HD over this box then Netflix will become my new best friend.

Find the box and more information at http://www.roku.com/netflixplayer/
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#2 OFFLINE   turey22

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 12:59 PM

same here if they do bluray, i am getting one.

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 01:00 PM

Yup, I'm with both you guys - need the HD content and I'm in!

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 01:02 PM

but i was reading on another website that alot of these movies would be old releases. well a few of new releases

#5 OFFLINE   Michael D'Angelo

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 01:04 PM

This is what I have been waiting for. I have two questions though. First can you have more than one on an account (for different TV's in the house) and the second question is will there be a limit on how many movies you can watch with it?

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 01:11 PM

as far as what i read no limit

http://www.foxnews.c...tflixTV,00.html

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 01:17 PM

I am sure once this box takes off, they will start adding better content. I think the older material was easier to get online, from a studio perspective. If this box becomes a success, then studios will be more apt to let Netflix stream their movies.

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 02:16 PM

aren't they going to possibly face the same issue as with DOD if you watch a great deal of movies if Comcast moves forward on the cap or charging more for users who download over the limit.......
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Posted 20 May 2008 - 03:59 PM

aren't they going to possibly face the same issue as with DOD if you watch a great deal of movies if Comcast moves forward on the cap or charging more for users who download over the limit.......


Yes.. there are probably going to be bandwidth issue if and when this and other similar services become really popular. It's a hurdle we will have to face somewhere down the road and there are no easy answers. I have yet to hear why the "pipes" we have in the United States are so small as compared to the pipes in other countries. The Japanese have 93,693 Mbits per second average advertised download speeds while the USA averages 8,860 Mb/sec.

Japan price per megabit per second averages $3.09, in the USA $12.6 per Mb/second.

I dont pretend to know the answer, but lets just say that the generation of Business Administration majors who are in control are incapable of seeing beyond the next quarter.
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Posted 20 May 2008 - 05:09 PM

I dont pretend to know the answer, but lets just say that the generation of Business Administration majors who are in control are incapable of seeing beyond the next quarter.


You don't pretend to know because you already know it and hit the nail on the head. :D

And here is where private companies will excel and kill the competition. Look at the financial services industry turmoil. Bear, Merrill, UBS, etc, etc all hit with record writeoffs and losses... all publicly traded and beholden to the shareholder, trying to make a quick buck in the mortgage market so they won't be punished by shareholders when the competition squeaks out a penny more in earnings next quarter. Many private companies in the same industry came out unscathed. I'm not saying that there aren't public companies who don't do it right and that there aren't private companies who are perfect, but by and large, your statement is entirely accurate and sadly true.

But in this free market economy that we operate in, the cream will eventually rise. Sometimes it takes a little longer than we'd like.

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Posted 22 May 2008 - 10:05 AM

There is some new worthwhile reading about the Netflix/Roku box at http://www.engadget....st-impressions/

Some GOOD information in this about Netflix pushing for HD sooner rather than later.
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Posted 27 May 2008 - 08:49 AM

I just hooked up my netflix box over the weekend. Very simple hook up. At first I used the built in wireless. Quality okay, not good. Then I decided to hardwire it. Huge improvement. Netflix claims they are going to add more selections. Hope that is true.
I have had netflix for years and think this box is a great idea, and so simple to setup.
The next hurdle will be the secret comcast limit.

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Posted 27 May 2008 - 03:32 PM

got mine today, the pic quality is real good, the audio is good also, like the selection of movies to instant que, plus they have a good selection of series to watch, i got a 2 week trial period on mine, real simple to hook up, and the video loads superfast, looks great on my 65 in hdtv. it is well worth the $99 investment, and you can take it with you and stream things to it from others internet browsers, as long as you have an account with them set up. i got mine setup for the wireless and the pic quality is still awesome, depends on your internet speed and your provider.

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Posted 28 May 2008 - 12:25 PM

when will they have the bluray box out?

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Posted 28 May 2008 - 01:11 PM

when will they have the bluray box out?


This box was built to handle HD from the start, as yet though Netflix has not activated the feature nor are they providing any HD material.

That being said, Netflix's CEO stated that they were moving to HD delivery as quickly as possible because they fell that is the future and rightly so.
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Posted 28 May 2008 - 02:06 PM

I'll let you guys in on a little secret...

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Apple TV

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 04:59 AM

I'll let you guys in on a little secret...

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Apple TV

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The apple tv box is over twice the money up front. Then a per movie fee.
Let's give netflix a little time to see how their box is going to work out.
Netflix has unlimited rentals for one price. If they kick in hd and more titles, which is what their plan seems to be, it will be hard to beat.

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 05:35 AM

The apple tv box is over twice the money up front. Then a per movie fee.
Let's give netflix a little time to see how their box is going to work out.
Netflix has unlimited rentals for one price. If they kick in hd and more titles, which is what their plan seems to be, it will be hard to beat.


Apple-shills don't mind spending twice the amount for the same or less technology, right AirRocker? :D :P

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 09:18 AM

Not quite tcusta... The Apple TV has a 160GB HD... i can rent OR buy movies... I can buy TV shows... I have every episode of HIMYM stored right there on the device... I can also browse the itunes store... save my music and photos on it... or stream them over my network from another computer...

Now explain to me how that's the same or less technology?? :D

I was just kidding though... The netflix box could be a decent solution for people not wanting all of the bells and whistles... I'm betting it will fair pretty well...
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Posted 29 May 2008 - 09:26 AM

Not quite tcusta... The Apple TV has a 160GB HD... i can rent OR buy movies... I can buy TV shows... I have every episode of HIMYM stored right there on the device... I can also browse the itunes store... save my music and photos on it... or stream them over my network from another computer...

Now explain to me how that's the same or less technology?? :D

I was just kidding though... The netflix box could be a decent solution for people not wanting all of the bells and whistles... I'm betting it will fair pretty well...


Aww shucks, I was just kidding buddy.:sure: I want to be an Apple Fanboy, I do, but I just don't buy into the hype. :lol:

Apple's offering seems to be a hybrid of a full-service DVR and a movie delivery service. You're right, Netflix is just providing a movie delivery service with none of the bells and whistles. It would seem that once DirecTV gets their ducks in a row the HR2x could replace most of the extra functionality you say AppleTV has - of course that would require a lot of what's in CE testing plus a slew of other wishlist type items to go live...

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 09:41 AM

I have an Apple TV but am very interested to see what happens with the Netflix box. Sounds like a simple solution for Netflix renters.

Be aware though that the Apple TV is really not the same thing. It's much more robust and there is no monthly fee to own one. Also, with the internal hard drive, you can rip your rented or purchased DVD's to the box for later viewing.

As far as HD, true, renting on the Apple TV is expensive but there are HD movies available in iTunes that are not available on Blu-Ray.

Either way, the Netflix box sounds cool and I just might get one to try it out. :)

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Posted 29 May 2008 - 11:08 AM

Just what i need - ANOTHER STB. I'll pass, thank you
Who is this "Vod Kanockers" that you speak of?

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 08:39 PM

Just my opinion, but I think HD downloads from the Internet isn't going to be worthwhile in the United States for at least a few more years. Right now the "HD" from providers like Apple (via their AppleTV) device is just not very good at all.

When I checked into it Apple was charging $5.99 for a 24 hour window on viewing a HD rental movie. That movie is encoded in 720p MPEG-4 AVC with lossy DD 5.1 audio. A 2 hour movie fits in about 4GB of hard drive space. That's a little over half the space required by the average MPEG-2 based 480p DVD movie. That's really severe data compression.

At the same time, I can rent a Blu-ray movie from Hastings for $5.99 and keep it for 7 days. Or $3.99 if I bring back the video the next day. Our local Blockbuster and Hollywood Video locations charge $4.99 for Blu-ray rentals.

Obviously the 1080p video and lossless or uncompressed audio on Blu-ray runs at bandwidths far above anything any download-based provider can match. I think it's going to be 7-10 years before Internet connections in the United States provide bandwidths of 30 million bits per second or better in most cities and towns.

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 10:10 PM

I have rented many HD movies on the Apple TV. I also have Blu-Ray. While Blu-Ray is obviously superior, the Apple TV HD movies are really not all that bad. I shoot them up on a 106" screen and they look quite good. Definitely better than an upconverted DVD but not as good as Blu-Ray.

The Apple TV is all about convenience. There are times when I want to watch the movie now and not wait for a few days to get the movie from Netflix or have to leave the house to run to a rental store. I for one like the convenience. BTW, the HD movies are $3.99 and $4.99 to rent on the Apple TV.

As far as the original topic, my Netflix box will be arriving on Wednesday. :) Looking forward to seeing how it works out.

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 05:39 PM

OK so I'm officially impressed.

I received the Netflix box today and hooked it to a 32" LCD 720p HDTV.

Setup was easy and the internal wireless in the box did not have any trouble finding my network. Signal strength is good.

The quality? Not bad at all. At normal viewing distance it looks almost as good as DVD. The interface couldn't be simpler.

The only thing I had to do was go into the settings on the Netflix box and change it to 16X9. It defaults to 4X3.

Also, good news. Harmony remotes will work. Just select up Roku under DVR and use the model number N1000. My Harmony 880 has no issues controlling the box.

IMHO, this is a steal for $99. Now I'm looking forward to seeing what Netflix has planned for this thing.




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