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XM / Sirius merger approved by FCC Chairman- With conditions.


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#1 OFFLINE   Richard King

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 05:12 AM

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The chairman of the Federal Communications Commission is recommending approval of the $5 billion merger between the nation's two satellite radio broadcasters in exchange for concessions that include turning over 24 channels to noncommercial and minority programming, The Associated Press has learned.

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#2 OFFLINE   Lee L

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 07:00 AM

Well, if it has to go through, it is good that they are not being made to give back half the capacity, but I still think the merger is a bad idea.

I would not hold my breath for the open radio standard. I am sure they will put the same crack team that was working on the interoperable radios on it. Funny how they are saying in response to criticism on the lack of interaparable radios, that they did develop them, but never made them because without a subsidy, they would be too expensive. Now, they say as part of this deal that they will have them out within a year. Unless that year turns to 3 months, I call BS on that as if the design was all done, it should not take a year to come out with one.


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Posted 16 June 2008 - 07:09 AM

That is good news. I am glad they finally made a decision. :)

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 07:14 AM

That is good news. I am glad they finally made a decision. :)


Right....for or against the merger, it took well long enough. Most hollywood marriages don't last as long as it's taken to approve or disapprove this merger.

On the benefit side....perhaps now I can get NHL and NFL on the same radio without having to flip around wires in my car. Joy!! Though at the expense of buying a new radio.....no Joy.
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Posted 16 June 2008 - 08:18 AM

That is good news. I am glad they finally made a decision. :)

Recommending the approval is a good step ... not quite a done deal and if Sirius/XM doesn't like the conditions it isn't a deal at all. :)

But it is progress - moving in the right direction.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 09:34 AM

A sad day for satellite radio indeed. Now I don't only have to worry about loss of channels due to combing similar channels, but now I lose 24 channels right off the top dedicated to pure garbage. Public interest has ruined TV and now it will satellite radio. I swear if I lose a single one of my favorite stations on either service due to minority crap, all five of my subscriptions across both services will be canceled immediately.
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Posted 16 June 2008 - 09:46 AM

I think it's a great thing! Nice call, FCC!

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 09:53 AM

I too was at first afraid of that "24" must be public stations. Then I realized that Sirius already has many pinko... I mean public stations such as NPR, Pri, BBC, etc.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 10:10 AM

I swear if I lose a single one of my favorite stations on either service due to minority crap, all five of my subscriptions across both services will be canceled immediately.


Ruht roh, good thing they're merging then, because either company on their own may not be able to sustain that financial hit all by itself. :lol:

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 10:52 AM

A sad day for satellite radio indeed. Now I don't only have to worry about loss of channels due to combing similar channels, but now I lose 24 channels right off the top dedicated to pure garbage. Public interest has ruined TV and now it will satellite radio. I swear if I lose a single one of my favorite stations on either service due to minority crap, all five of my subscriptions across both services will be canceled immediately.


Just a thought, but don't they have 24+ redundant channels right now? e.g. ESPN Radio, CNN, etc. So they should just be able to remove the redundancy and give the bandwidth to public interestest without affecting any unique channels.

Of course, they may also determine that some music channels of the same genre are redundant, whereas you (or others) find them unique.
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Posted 16 June 2008 - 11:29 AM

It still is a "tax" on their bandwidth ... forcing them to do something they didn't want to do. Perhaps a tax they are willing to pay, perhaps not.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 12:27 PM

I think the end result would have been 1 satellite radio company no matter what the outcome. If K-mart kept burying it in the sand, one of the companies (most likely XM) couldn't make it. Now that its approved there will be 1 satellite radio company that may have a chance to make it. I think its great news and totally absurd how long this has taken.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 01:45 PM

If all the commissioners approve the merger it would be great, but Martin is going to have to push hard to get this through. I wouldn't be surprised to see other commissioners wanting more concessions from the companies before they approve the merger. So while Martin is for it, without the others on board this could go on for another few months.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 02:20 PM

This is a bad idea. It eliminates any competition, screws up free market and forces XM customers to bail Sirius out of the stupid Howard Stern deal.
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Posted 16 June 2008 - 02:50 PM

This is a bad idea. It eliminates any competition, screws up free market and forces XM customers to bail Sirius out of the stupid Howard Stern deal.


Howard Stern made Sirius radio as big as it is, now Martha Stewart that was a mistake. As far as free marketplace, depends on how you define it. Sirius/XM argue they have to compete against all forms of new media (IPod, Wireless, etc.).

This deal is so tiny compared to the mammoth monopolistic deals that were approved in no time. Take a look at the Exxon Mobil deal or the Whirlpool-Maytag which breezed thru approval. Most of the opposition to this deal has come from the NAB and officials they have paid off. Haven't heard many consumers because its such a small marketshare and many things like "ala carte" programming has been promised which is a good thing.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 02:51 PM

This is a bad idea. It eliminates any competition, screws up free market and forces XM customers to bail Sirius out of the stupid Howard Stern deal.


Isn't it sirius bailing out XM? Sirius subscriber count has gone through the roof. XM hasen't done much. Sure they grew popular fast but their numbers have stagnated. The "stupid" howard stern deal has brought in millions upon millions of new subscribers and put Sirius in a position to buyout XM.
And having owned both i'd take sirius over XM any day.

What this deal means is you get the best of both worlds, lower base pricing as well as some a la carte.

You may want them to stay seperate so you have competition, but all that would do in this case is drive both companies out of business. A pay for radio has a hard time competing against free radio and people just plugging thier ipods into their vehicles.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 02:56 PM

Isn't it sirius bailing out XM? Sirius subscriber count has gone through the roof. XM hasen't done much. Sure they grew popular fast but their numbers have stagnated. The "stupid" howard stern deal has brought in millions upon millions of new subscribers and put Sirius in a position to buyout XM.
And having owned both i'd take sirius over XM any day.

What this deal means is you get the best of both worlds, lower base pricing as well as some a la carte.

You may want them to stay seperate so you have competition, but all that would do in this case is drive both companies out of business. A pay for radio has a hard time competing against free radio and people just plugging thier ipods into their vehicles.


You must be confused - Sirius has 5 year average earnings growth at 4%, XM at 16%. No one is bailing anyone out, it was a necessary move for both companies.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 03:07 PM

Hmmmph. I am shopping for a new car (Honda, for November) and was hoping this would have been settled long before this so I could get a combo Sirius/XM radio in the car. Looks like it will be XM only though ...

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 03:10 PM

That is the worst part of all this. Any development of aftermarket solutions for cars has been dead since this was announced. I had and XM setup in my MINI that allowed full integration. Newer MINIs and BMWS do not have this since Blitzsafe has not developed it.


DirecTV, please don't make me have to go back to watching March Madness in standard Def! Oh, and the usual begging for AMC and BBC America. You are so close to actually being the HD Leader.

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Posted 16 June 2008 - 03:15 PM

That is good news. I am glad they finally made a decision. :)


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