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Any way to *not* see live TV when powering up?


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#1 OFFLINE   Patent geek

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Posted 23 July 2008 - 01:23 PM

One Tivo feature that I miss on the 722 is that with Tivo, if you hit the Tivo button prior to turning on your TV, you'd see the menu rather than what was on live TV at the time. I found this to be incredibly useful when I was recording sporting events for delayed viewing while they were still on, and didn't want any spoilers as to the current score.

On the 722, though, when you hit the DVR button, whatever's on the current channel continues showing in the PIP box. More often than not, it's whatever is recording at the time, which is exactly what I want to avoid.

Is it possible to disable the PIP display from showing in the DVR menu? I've poked around but haven't figured out a solution.

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#2 OFFLINE   Redlinetire

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Posted 23 July 2008 - 01:57 PM

You have two issues there:
1) Turning on the TV and seeing live
2) Viewing DVR menu and seeing live in PIP

The solution to both is to tune to another channel before turning on the TV.
If you're recording on both channels, and don't wish to see either of them, then you're out of luck. Unless you have an antenna hooked up, in which case you could tune to that. Unless you're recording that too...

Long answer to say 'no' you can't turn off the PIP.
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Posted 23 July 2008 - 02:12 PM

Turn your tv OFF before you power on your tivo. :D

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Posted 23 July 2008 - 02:40 PM

If I don't want what is "on" (a previous recording, Live, some delayed Live) to continue in the window, I hit Pause before the DVR button. No guarantee that Select (or power on) to 722, Pause, then power on the TV won't have a score on the screen, but it will kill audio of the announcer spoiling that (or the other) game.

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Posted 23 July 2008 - 07:37 PM

If I don't want what is "on" (a previous recording, Live, some delayed Live) to continue in the window, I hit Pause before the DVR button. No guarantee that Select (or power on) to 722, Pause, then power on the TV won't have a score on the screen, but it will kill audio of the announcer spoiling that (or the other) game.


I usually just press Mute and don't look at the PiP.
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Posted 23 July 2008 - 08:12 PM

I usually just press Mute and don't look at the PiP.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:02 AM

I thought there was a guide that had no PIP? Found it. http://www.dbstalk.c...iP622Review.pdf
Page 7 says 3 hours of guide data for 9 channels without video preview window.
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Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:40 AM

I thought there was a guide that had no PIP? Found it. http://www.dbstalk.c...iP622Review.pdf
Page 7 says 3 hours of guide data for 9 channels without video preview window.

Good answer - wrong question. He's talking about the "Tivo" (DVR) Button. :grin:

There is no way to eliminate the picture when you hit the Tivo (DVR) Button.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:46 AM

I thought there was a guide that had no PIP? Found it. http://www.dbstalk.c...iP622Review.pdf
Page 7 says 3 hours of guide data for 9 channels without video preview window.


Excellent catch. Here it is (pp. 94-95, chapter 11 of the 722 user's guide):
http://www.dishnetwo...2/Chapter11.pdf

Menu 8-2, extended guide, no video.

Not a perfect solution (which would be a similar option on the DVR main menu), but adequate.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 10:48 AM

Good answer - wrong question. He's talking about the "Tivo" (DVR) Button. :grin:


True, but at least tweaking the EPG this way gives me a safe screen to look at on power up without fiddling with mute, averting my eyes, etc.

I wonder if this box is hackable.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 11:26 AM

True, but at least tweaking the EPG this way gives me a safe screen to look at on power up without fiddling with mute, averting my eyes, etc.

I wonder if this box is hackable.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 03:43 PM

One Tivo feature that I miss on the 722 is that with Tivo, if you hit the Tivo button prior to turning on your TV, you'd see the menu rather than what was on live TV at the time. I found this to be incredibly useful when I was recording sporting events for delayed viewing while they were still on, and didn't want any spoilers as to the current score.

Avert the eyes is the solution I use ... the only other thing I can think of is pressing select (to turn on the box) then the REWIND button four times and waiting a couple of minutes before turning on the TV.

I was thinking of a different problem when I first saw the thread (seeing a movie channel or whatever you were watching last when you next turn on the receiver). I record The Daily Show and Colbert Report on TV2 in the early morning and it ticks my wife off to find TV2 pointed to Comedy Central when she turns on the set ... so now I have an auto tune at 2am to change to the weather channel. :)

For live events recording in progress that isn't an option.

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 03:25 PM

You could configure your Harmony remote to turn DVR on, go to guide (or whatever) and then turn-on the TV.

Problem Solved. :)

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 06:40 PM

The solution to both is to tune to another channel before turning on the TV.


This is what I do. Works very well.

But ... any of y'all notice this? My 722 does this as well as the 522 SD DVR I had prior: You're recording a sports event. You power up the TV with the DVR set to another channel to avoid looking at the score. ;) You find the sports event in the DVR list, and then choose Start (view from beg). Both boxes, the 522 and 722 do this: for an instant, less than one second, it will show the sports program live, *then* start it from the beginning. So I am now conditioned to avert my gaze for that instant after choosing start to when the recording actually starts playing back from the beg! :D

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 12:43 AM

Avert the eyes is the solution I use ... the only other thing I can think of is pressing select (to turn on the box) then the REWIND button four times and waiting a couple of minutes before turning on the TV.

I was thinking of a different problem when I first saw the thread (seeing a movie channel or whatever you were watching last when you next turn on the receiver). I record The Daily Show and Colbert Report on TV2 in the early morning and it ticks my wife off to find TV2 pointed to Comedy Central when she turns on the set ... so now I have an auto tune at 2am to change to the weather channel. :)

For live events recording in progress that isn't an option.


Are you sure you're worried about Comedy Central and not something in the range just below 500? :D

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 01:32 AM

Are you sure you're worried about Comedy Central and not something in the range just below 500? :D

Locked and hidden twice. My EPG goes from 478 to 500. (I have all of the shopping channels locked and hidden as well.)

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 10:15 AM

Avert the eyes is the solution I use ...


Ditto; if I'm coming in on a sporting event I don't want to see the end, I just mute the sound before turning on, and cover half the screen with my hand over my eyes until I can get to the recorded programs, and "start over" on the program. Looks goofy probably, holding out my hand to cover my vision, but hey, it works. :D

Edit; forgot, if I can't get it muted in time, I just mutter "la la la la la la la" really loud until I get the sound off, haha.

Edited by ZBoomer, 24 March 2009 - 10:23 AM.

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 10:48 AM

Edit; forgot, if I can't get it muted in time, I just mutter "la la la la la la la" really loud until I get the sound off, haha.


Wouldn't it be easier to just hit the Pause button first?

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 01:34 PM

Sometimes, just depends on the situation. I do whatever it takes to keep from seeing or hearing live TV when a sporting even is on, and I'm delayed.

I'm talking about if I walk into the room and the event is already on, volume going. There is a few seconds it takes to find the remote, mute/pause, whatever.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 01:35 PM

I use all the various techniques suggested here. But it's almost impossible not to get some glimpse of something recording after you delete a recording you just watched.




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