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#426 OFFLINE   Go Beavs

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 10:18 PM

The attached Excel provides all the OTA channels as discovered by doctor j on 8/24/11.

There are some 3,862 records, ordered by your Local-Into-Local or DIRECTV Network number. If you do not know your LIL Network number, see the TPN Map thread. In the Excel posted is a tab or 'sheet' labeld "LIL Market List" that will give you all the information you need.


gct, thanks for compiling this information. You guys do a hellava job on these lists!

One question for this transponder map... In the previous OTA version back in December, we could see the virtual (display) channel as well and the actual RF channel. Is that info still there?

It may be useful to some people looking to tune in OTA channels not included in the guide data.

Thanks for all your work!

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 02:47 PM

gct, my thanks as well.

Where is this data extracted from?

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 06:52 PM

Attached is the OTA data for folks served by DIRECTV-LA (thats Latin America).

Data is from data collected by Eduardo on 8/15/11. As I understand it, the AM21 is just now beginning to be marketed to the LatinAm market. I'm sure we will see much growth in this area as AM21 sales begin to move.


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Posted 27 August 2011 - 06:56 PM

... In the previous OTA version back in December, we could see the virtual (display) channel as well and the actual RF channel. Is that info still there?


Beavs,

You are right that data is missing in the current records both for the US Domestic Data and for the DIRECTV LatinAm data.

We are going back to the raw binary to see if that information is still being provided or if a change in our parsing and interpretation software is the culprit.

We will keep you posted.


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Posted 27 August 2011 - 11:24 PM

Beavs,

You are right that data is missing in the current records both for the US Domestic Data and for the DIRECTV LatinAm data.

We are going back to the raw binary to see if that information is still being provided or if a change in our parsing and interpretation software is the culprit.

We will keep you posted.


Thanks gct and co. I appreciate the effort!

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:07 PM

The attached Excel provides all the OTA channels as discovered by doctor j on 8/24/11.

There are some 3,862 records, ordered by your Local-Into-Local or DIRECTV Network number. If you do not know your LIL Network number, see the TPN Map thread. In the Excel posted is a tab or 'sheet' labeld "LIL Market List" that will give you all the information you need.

I found a station (possibly new) not in the spreadsheet:

Network Name Channel Satellite Recv_Display LIL_Market

597 WTICDT2 61_2 Over The Air OTA 86

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 05:07 PM

Folks,

This is an updated OTA/LIL listing. There were some glitches in the previous post of 8/24 OTA data. This version also provides both the RF channel and the virtual (display) channel.

We learned that we must run the binary interpretation software with the specific OTA option get the full data records.

This run also corrected a record error with Network 677 and 678.

Regrettably, only OTA data is provided. A combination of OTA and LIL records causes the Excel to exceed file size limitations.

Edited by gct, 09 September 2011 - 07:27 PM.
deleted excel - see new listing posted 9/9/11



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Posted 01 September 2011 - 10:40 AM

DMA - Detroit, MI

Further to my previous message from August 9th, I just sent a follow-up message to Tribune/zap2it.com advising that all of the following neighboring Canadian stations are now broadcasting in digital form, and receivable via antenna here in metro Detroit, as a result of last night's mandatory Canadian digital conversion deadline:

CBET 9.1/9.1 (CBC) - Windsor, Ontario
CHWI 16.1/16.1 (CTV Two, formerly A Network) - Wheatley, Ontario
CIII 22.1/22.1 (Global) - Stevenson, Ontario
CHWI 26.1/26.1 (CTV Two) - Windsor, Ontario (local repeater for CHWI-16)
CICA 32.1/32.1 (TVOntario) - Windsor, Ontario

My message to Tribune/zap2it.com again advised that I am a DirecTV subscriber in the metro Detroit DMA using the AM21 over-the-air receiver, and am hoping that all of these stations and their program guide data will be shown in my AM21 on-screen guide shortly as part of the available metro Detroit over-the-air station listings.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 12:08 PM

I know I am beating a dead horse by posting in this utterly useless thread, but WGNO-DT2 26.2 on UHF 26 in New Orleans has been on the air and listed on zap2it/TMS since the beginning of the year and it still not in the DIRECTV database. It is pure fantasy that anyone from DIRECTV has ever seen this thread. This thread should be locked and deleted.
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 05:57 PM

Will you post if you get it to work? I think there are many of us that are looking for the secret to get our local channels added.

DMA - Detroit, MI

Further to my previous message from August 9th, I just sent a follow-up message to Tribune/zap2it.com advising that all of the following neighboring Canadian stations are now broadcasting in digital form, and receivable via antenna here in metro Detroit, as a result of last night's mandatory Canadian digital conversion deadline:

CBET 9.1/9.1 (CBC) - Windsor, Ontario
CHWI 16.1/16.1 (CTV Two, formerly A Network) - Wheatley, Ontario
CIII 22.1/22.1 (Global) - Stevenson, Ontario
CHWI 26.1/26.1 (CTV Two) - Windsor, Ontario (local repeater for CHWI-16)
CICA 32.1/32.1 (TVOntario) - Windsor, Ontario

My message to Tribune/zap2it.com again advised that I am a DirecTV subscriber in the metro Detroit DMA using the AM21 over-the-air receiver, and am hoping that all of these stations and their program guide data will be shown in my AM21 on-screen guide shortly as part of the available metro Detroit over-the-air station listings.



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Posted 05 September 2011 - 08:00 PM

Still missing a few in Chicago two
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Posted 06 September 2011 - 03:19 PM

Cleveland WEWS 5.2 The Live Well Network is now up and running.

Not my cup of tea, but add another channel to the ever expanding list of available OTA not available on AM21.

Why did I pay that $50 again........?

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 07:20 AM

Folks,

This is an updated OTA/LIL listing. There were some glitches in the previous post of 8/24 OTA data. This version also provides both the RF channel and the virtual (display) channel.

We learned that we must run the binary interpretation software with the specific OTA option get the full data records.

This run also corrected a record error with Network 677 and 678.

Regrettably, only OTA data is provided. A combination of OTA and LIL records causes the Excel to exceed file size limitations.


I got a chance to browse trough this data and found that NET 647 through NET 661 are missing the RF channel in the TPN column. It looks like the NET #'s were copied into the TPN column.

Another interesting note... I see there is no listing in the table for MNT affiliate KPDX, channel 49 in Portland, OR. It is definitely available in DIRECTV's OTA guide data as I have guide data for it and can tune to it with the AM-21. All the other PDX data seems correct.

Thanks gct

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 08:00 AM

add 9-3 WCPO Live Well in Cincinnati to the missing list...

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 01:03 PM

I got a chance to browse trough this data and found that NET 647 through NET 661 are missing the RF channel in the TPN column. It looks like the NET #'s were copied into the TPN column.

Another interesting note... I see there is no listing in the table for MNT affiliate KPDX, channel 49 in Portland, OR. It is definitely available in DIRECTV's OTA guide data as I have guide data for it and can tune to it with the AM-21. All the other PDX data seems correct.

Thanks gct


Beavs,

i am sorry about the errors. We had moved to new binary interpreter software - and as often happens, it had some bad hiccup problems.

I replaced last week's TPN MAP with one that was created with an earlier software version. And the present, 9/8 TPN MAP has been created with an earlier software version too. The problems in that new software were also reflected in the OTA data.

NOW: doctor j just this morning (9/9) has re-run the binary data using yet more updated (and hopefully corrected) software. I hope later today or tomorrow to have a whole new run, in a little different format, ready to post.

And truly - thanks very much for your help!
gct


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Posted 09 September 2011 - 07:25 PM

Here is a fresh OTA Listing, using data of 9/8/11.

Please provide your feedback - it is a tremendous help in making the data useful and ensuring its validity.

EDIT: 9/21/11
Please note that the OTA data is now included in the TPN MAP Excel provided in the TPN MAP thread.

Edited by gct, 21 September 2011 - 06:00 PM.
removed standalone OTA data



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Posted 09 September 2011 - 08:28 PM

Beavs,

i am sorry about the errors. We had moved to new binary interpreter software - and as often happens, it had some bad hiccup problems.

I replaced last week's TPN MAP with one that was created with an earlier software version. And the present, 9/8 TPN MAP has been created with an earlier software version too. The problems in that new software were also reflected in the OTA data.

NOW: doctor j just this morning (9/9) has re-run the binary data using yet more updated (and hopefully corrected) software. I hope later today or tomorrow to have a whole new run, in a little different format, ready to post.

And truly - thanks very much for your help!
gct


No need to apologize. You guys do a tremendous job!

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 08:53 PM

KUBEDT5 57.5 is now airing in the Houston, TX market, but, of course, is nowhere to be found via the AM21.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 07:45 AM

We recently had an OTA antenna installed. Live in Winter Haven, Fl which is about 50 miles from Tampa and 40 miles from Orlando. The antenna picks up all of the stations in both cities (when connected directly to the TV) but only Tampa when connected to our HR20. I know that Tampa is our DirectV DMA but we actually live closer to Orlando as far as news and weather are concerned. Does Directv block our reception thru the HR20 for Orlando?
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Posted 10 September 2011 - 07:49 AM

We recently had an OTA antenna installed. Live in Winter Haven, Fl which is about 50 miles from Tampa and 40 miles from Orlando. The antenna picks up all of the stations in both cities (when connected directly to the TV) but only Tampa when connected to our HR20. I know that Tampa is our DirectV DMA but we actually live closer to Orlando as far as news and weather are concerned. Does Directv block our reception thru the HR20 for Orlando?


Re-run your antenna setup and use a Tampa zip code as your primary market and then use an Orlando zip as the secondary. That will allow the HR20 to see both markets OTA.

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Posted 10 September 2011 - 03:20 PM

Many thanks for your assistance. Followed instructions and can now see both Orlando and Tampa stations (plus Sarasota & one other on the East Coast)!!!. Well worth the cost of antenna & installation.
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 02:06 PM

Market 591 Greenville Washington New Bern NC
Missing

WITNDT3 7.3 RF32 WITN WEATHER (not listed in guide)
WCTIDT2 12.3 RF12 LIVE WELL NETWORK (not listed in guide)


WYDODT2 14.2 should be RF47

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 02:44 PM

Here is a fresh OTA Listing, using data of 9/8/11.

This is hopefully much more consistent than the previous issue.

Please provide your feedback - it is a tremendous help in making the data useful and ensuring its validity.


Now, since DirecTV will not update this database any more :mad:, can you figure out how for us to update it for them? :sure: :)

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 09:05 AM

Ive had several new channels added but directv will not update the guide.
They should atleast let us scan channels.

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 06:03 PM

Please note that OTA data is now included with other LIL information within the Excel posted in the TPN MAP thread.

That OTA data will be updated fresh each week and grouped along with the LIL channels for each DMA.

You have only one place to look for the data, and it will always be the most current.





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