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Sixto Report-D12 Status: Pre-Launch


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#1226 OFFLINE   dcowboy7

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 01:21 PM

Wasn't D11 supposed to give the capability of 150 national HD channels?
But D* is nowhere near that.


No they werent supposed to....it was "up to 150".

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#1227 OFFLINE   Hutchinshouse

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 01:42 PM

No they werent supposed to....it was "up to 150".


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The "up to" is mumbo-jumbo. As if DIRECTV doesn't know the capacity of their sats. The "150" is key, not the "up to". If the "up to" is the definitive factor, why didn't they say up to 160 or 170 etc. There's room for more national HD, they're simply not adding it.

Bring on D12 :goodjob:

#1228 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 01:55 PM

This should all be very simple.

D10 currently has 14 national transponders. At 5 per, that's 70. All used. 100%. (Was 16/80 for a short time prior to D11).

D11 currently has 14 national transponders. At 5 per, that's 70. Most used today. 90%+.

This Sunday (9/13), we'll get a good view of how full D11 is. We'll have NFL Sunday Ticket (12 games: 704-715) plus the usual part-time HD channel needs, almost the maximum HD bandwidth needed. The following Sunday (9/20) should be the 2009 maximum (14 games: 704-717), with 2 additional NFL channels needed. 1/3/2010 will have 15 games. Very interested in the HD allocation mid-Sunday afternoon.

In 2010, D12 will have an additional 16 national transponders, for another 80 HD channels (assuming current PQ and encoding).

In the past, 101°, 110°, and 119° have also provided HD bandwidth, but a business decision has been made (for now) to consolidate all HD to D10/D11, soon to be D10/D11/D12, with 6 MPEG2 HD channels still to be turned off on 110°/119°.

Edit: Needed to exclude Sunday Night Football (NBC).

Edited by Sixto, 08 September 2009 - 05:22 PM.

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#1229 OFFLINE   dcowboy7

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 04:06 PM

This Sunday (9/13), we'll get a good view of how full D11 is. We'll have NFL Sunday Ticket (13 games).

The following Sunday (9/20) should be the 2009 maximum (15 games), with 2 additional NFL channels needed.

1/3/2010 will have 16 games.


This sunday = 12 games.
The following sunday = 14 games.
1/3/10 = 15 games....a game will move to 8:20 SNF.

#1230 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 04:47 PM

This sunday = 12 games.
The following sunday = 14 games.
1/3/10 = 15 games....a game will move to 8:20 SNF.

Yep, should have excluded the NBC Sunday night game. Sunday 9/20 will be a good view of max.

Edited by Sixto, 08 September 2009 - 05:22 PM.

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#1231 OFFLINE   LameLefty

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 05:52 AM

If Boeing doesn't ship in the next two weeks, October (and probably November) is out of the question.


So being a Dish customer and only knowing Directv hardware because there are some receivers where you work makes you an expert in satellite construction, FCC regulatory processes and GSO launch operations now? Please. Do you really want me to dig up some of your similarly incorrect assertions about D10 from two years ago?

You should really just stick to what you actually, you know, know. :rolleyes:

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#1232 OFFLINE   David MacLeod

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 06:07 AM

You should really just stick to what you actually, you know, know. :rolleyes:


would be a short conversation then...
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Posted 09 September 2009 - 09:15 AM

So being a Dish customer and only knowing Directv hardware because there are some receivers where you work makes you an expert in satellite construction, FCC regulatory processes and GSO launch operations now? Please. Do you really want me to dig up some of your similarly incorrect assertions about D10 from two years ago?

You should really just stick to what you actually, you know, know. :rolleyes:


In post 939, you said "There's usually 3 - 4 weeks' lead time from delivery of the encapsulated satellite to the launch facility for integration with the booster."

So harsh is being a little melodramatic with the Nov thing, but if the bird is still in the states, then October is under pressure. I will feel much better when we have confirmation that the thing has been shipped. At that point, there will be less of a speculative "here's a window, there's a window" discussion. I would think they will not ship without a slot. This speaks to my knowledge of all that stuff you mention, above - You can't launch a satellite unless the satellite is at the launch site.

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 05:29 PM

Reading the last several ILS launch blogs, although they have capacity to process multiple launches, the sat usually arrives soon after the sucessful prior launch.
Nimiq 5 is scheduled for 9/17.
I'd expect D-12 to ship shortly after that if all is OK.

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#1235 OFFLINE   Sixto

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 06:10 PM

Reading the last several ILS launch blogs, although they have capacity to process multiple launches, the sat usually arrives soon after the sucessful prior launch.
Nimiq 5 is scheduled for 9/17.
I'd expect D-12 to ship shortly after that if all is OK.

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The FCC Filing lists the D12 Construction Completion Date as 10/8/2009:

http://licensing.fcc...ment_key=730514

While it's certainly possible for D12 to launch between Nimiq 5 on 9/17/2009 and W7 in mid-November, I'm just getting a vibe that it may be after W7, but we'll see, especially if some $ changed hands to get W7 to the head of the line. That W7 press release the other day sounded urgent.

2008/2009 launches and guesswork:
01/28/2008
02/11/2008 +14
03/14/2008 +32
08/18/2008 
09/19/2008 +32
11/05/2008 +47
12/10/2008 +35
02/11/2009 +62
04/03/2009 +51
05/16/2009 +43
06/30/2009 +45
08/11/2009 +42
09/17/2009 +38 (Nimiq 5 scheduled)
10/17/2009 +30 (D12?)
11/16/2009 +30 (W7?)

Edited by Sixto, 09 September 2009 - 06:57 PM.

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#1236 OFFLINE   Tom Robertson

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 07:46 PM

DIRECTV will be the first to launch a BSS satellite into the US! DIRECTV 12 and RB-2A are the same hybrid satellite and filings have been posted at the FCC.

But let us continue discussion at the new thread: http://www.dbstalk.c...d.php?p=2210347

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