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Let's Put an End to Stretch-o-vision!


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Poll: Would you want a "Squeeze" function added to available screen formats? (83 member(s) have cast votes)

Would you want a "Squeeze" function added to available screen formats?

  1. Absolutely! I hate stretch-o-vision! (60 votes [72.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 72.29%

  2. Naah, I'm fine the way things are. (19 votes [22.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.89%

  3. Another idea to deal with stretch-o-vision (please explain). (4 votes [4.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.82%

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#1 OFFLINE   kw2957

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 04:38 PM

Hey everyone,

I have been thinking about a new option for the formats on our HR2x and H2x receivers the past few days and have finally decided to post it on the forum. I don't know if this has ever been suggested before, but why not give us an option to "Squeeze" the picture on HD channels so that it will fit in the 4:3 ratio (put black/gray bars on both sides of the picture). The purpose of this is to stop broadcasters like TBS and the History Channel who stretch their non-widescreen content to fill our 16:9 TVs, thus ending our complaints about stretch-o-vision. I don't see any reason why this cannot be done.

Perhaps we can get an option like this in a future software upgrade. So, what do you all think? Would you be in favor of adding this option to our available formats?

***By the way, I made a typo in the poll. It should say a "Squeeze" function, not a "Stretch" function. Sorry!***Happy to fix it --Mod

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#2 OFFLINE   davring

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 04:59 PM

There is much less of this kind of programming today than there was even a year ago, I'm not sure it would be necessary. I can do so with my TV, but I understand not all sets will allow you to. Just tune to the SD version.

Edit: Many shows squeezed down look like heck anyway because they are not evenly stretched in the first place, so now you have a pillar boxed distorted picture.
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#3 OFFLINE   JACKIEGAGA

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 05:01 PM

Leave it as is

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#4 OFFLINE   dcowboy7

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 05:22 PM

i can unsqueeze it with a button on my remote for my tv already so doesnt matter to me....but yea y not.

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 05:28 PM

Actually I'd prefer that the channels don't putz with the aspect ratio and for the no black bar folks allow the STB to stretch channels. The STB's do it for 480i channels but not for 720p/1080i channels.

The reason I don't like the idea of the box doing the 'unstretching' is that a number of channel that do the stretch do processing that leaves the center part of the picture alone but the farther out you go in the frame the more of a stretch they apply so having the box unstretch would distore the picture just as bad.

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#6 OFFLINE   JerseyBoy

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 05:48 PM

The request not to stretch should be to the content providers (TBS, USA etc.) not Directv.

#7 OFFLINE   Doug Brott

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 06:54 PM

The request not to stretch should be to the content providers (TBS, USA etc.) not Directv.


Agreed .. This is a broadcast issue, not a receiver issue.
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#8 OFFLINE   MikeW

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 06:59 PM

The request not to stretch should be to the content providers (TBS, USA etc.) not Directv.


What's worse is when they convince the guide data providers to place an HD symbol next in the guide. If it isn't true HD, it shouldn't be labeled as HD.

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 06:59 PM

why not give us an option to "Squeeze" the picture on HD channels so that it will fit in the 4:3 ratio (put black/gray bars on both sides of the picture).


My panny has that option already. I'm assuming most good HDTV's give you options for full - 4x3 - zoom etc.
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Posted 14 September 2008 - 07:03 PM

Agreed .. This is a broadcast issue, not a receiver issue.


Just as the OP suggested...

What if D* were to implement a "Squeeze" Format on its receivers, which will take the stretched programming and make it appear to be Pillar Boxed 4:3?

Would it then be considered a receiver issue?
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#11 OFFLINE   kw2957

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 08:42 PM

I understand that it is not D* that is at fault, rather the networks themselves. However, since it seems that TBS and the other offenders will not stop this practice for the foreseeable future, there should be an option for those of us to squeeze stretched content through the receiver. My TV doesn't have this option built in, so it would be a nice feature. After all, doesn't the receiver offer pretty much every other format option?

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Posted 15 September 2008 - 03:25 AM

The request not to stretch should be to the content providers (TBS, USA etc.) not Directv.


Agreed!

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Posted 20 September 2008 - 10:52 PM

Hey thanks for fixing that Stuart...I just noticed the little note you left me in the red text. :D

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 01:02 PM

When are all of the content providers going to start filming ALL new episodes in HD???

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 02:13 PM

When are all of the content providers going to start filming ALL new episodes in HD???

If the older episodes were filmed (not taped), and archived, then they can be rescanned as true HD, assuming that the "new" wider image areas were considered during production.

16mm film has a higher resolution than HDTV.
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