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DirecTV adding Adult Oriented Ads to Guide?


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#51 OFFLINE   rahlquist

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 05:56 PM

Ken, FWIW my only receiver with adult content blocked(the R16 in my daughters room) is not showing this channel.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 06:07 PM

I agree with Ken S if he has it blocked it shouldn't show up in his favorites. That is why some people customize there guide.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 06:27 PM

I with add my agreement that it shouldn't show up. Hopefully it was just a glitch. The search still needs to be fixed. We are very careful about what we let our 5 year old be exposed to.

As soon as I got home from work I checked mine and it hadn't been added.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 10:53 AM

Actually, just the opposite. I believe 'Hooter' is the mascot Owl for this fine chain of eateries. The ('s) would in this case be the grammatically correct possesive usage.


Hooter the Owl doesn't own it. The name of the chain, and the parent company, have no apostrophes. See here, for example (link is to a corporate info site, so you won't see any owls, or any other type of hooter).

Trust me, I have studied the logo long and hard.
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 12:56 PM

I checked all three DVRs in my house and none had the adult channel in the favorites guide I use and I have zero restrictions on the profiles.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 01:22 PM

1) Ads in the guide are terrible.

2) I agree with the problem here.

3) D* needs to fix the program search that shows porn titles in the results.

Until then D*'s adult restrictions are pretty much a joke.
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 01:28 PM

I'll just assume you don't have kids...

It's not about thick skin or what my kids (or Ken's kids, or dvrwannabe's kids) are seeing in school or on the internet. It's about DIRECTV acting responsibly. I agree that this in itself is not a huge deal, but this kind of thing has been an ongoing problem with DIRECTV for some time.

It's my responsibility to monitor what my kids see and do on the internet. It's my responsibility to be aware of who my kids hang out with at school, and to be aware of what they are "into". It's my responsibility to monitor and limit my kids access to my DIRECTV system. All I have available are the tools that DIRECTV provides. And, those tool are sub-standard.

I would hope that this channel being automatically added to a fav's list was a mistake on DIRECTV's part. A mistake of which I hope they are now aware.


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Posted 12 November 2008 - 01:33 PM

Good grief. The wussification of America is getting worse and worse.


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Posted 12 November 2008 - 01:59 PM

Ken,

You have every reason to complain about (or bring to attention-as I do not think you are a complainer) this issue. As someone with small children, I would be upset if something like one of the adult channels just showed up in my guide with the titles of those shows. My 6 year old likes to read everything listed in the guide as my wife or I scroll the guide looking for something to watch. Having him be able to suddenly read some of the titles that shows up on those specific channels, would require some explaining when he turned and asked, "What is .....?"

The issue of such channels showing up in our guide has not happened to me yet. If it happens again, I would suggest dropping a note to Mr. Kevin Martin at the FCC. He will certainly take notice of the issue--at which point DirecTV will also take notice of the issue.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 02:08 PM

BTW, does anyone understand what the words "channel block" mean in a show title?

I had two reasons for posting. First to publicly take DirecTV to task for this type advertising whether accidental or on purpose someone there needs to be more careful. The second is to warn other parents it may happen.


I didn't call for the removal of adult content...just the opposite.

To those of you who believe it a joke...There is nothing more important than protecting and educating our children. Unfortunately, that task has slipped in some people's minds behind far more trivial pursuits.


Your point is perfectly reasonable, Ken, and I don't see it as an over-reaction. I record some of the Star Trek series on Spike TV, and get pretty tired of the the constant "girls gone wild" dvd commercials. Fortunately the 30 sec slip works pretty well, but I find the material itself objectionable.

It is not a big deal, just offensive (to me) and perhaps others who don't care for immodest presentations. No letter writing, whining, wringing of hands stuff here...I just don't like it and move on. To those who think this material is interesting or "good", fine.

Having this kind of material appear in a Guide that has been previously filtered is a screw-up that should be corrected, it's as simple as that.
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 02:17 PM

if the issue is in the guide itself write to

office of the president
DIRECTV, Inc.
P.O. Box 6550
Greenwood Village, CO 80155-6550

if the issue is Spike then write to

Spike TV
1515 Broadway
New York, NY 10036
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 02:55 PM

Your point is perfectly reasonable, Ken, and I don't see it as an over-reaction. I record some of the Star Trek series on Spike TV, and get pretty tired of the the constant "girls gone wild" dvd commercials. Fortunately the 30 sec slip works pretty well, but I find the material itself objectionable.

It is not a big deal, just offensive (to me) and perhaps others who don't care for immodest presentations. No letter writing, whining, wringing of hands stuff here...I just don't like it and move on. To those who think this material is interesting or "good", fine.

Having this kind of material appear in a Guide that has been previously filtered is a screw-up that should be corrected, it's as simple as that.


hasan,

The constant ads for those types of shows and ED medications are going over the top. I like to listen to sports talk in the car, but you can't anymore when every other ad is espousing how big she likes it and warning about calling your doctor if it stays big for over four hours. I know some of these stations are doing everything they can to stay in business, but they're also selling out their future as children can't/shouldn't listen/watch them.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 03:01 PM

If you just have a favorites list setup it will add new channels automatically that didn't exist before. What you want is your parental locks setup so that it blocks that type of content.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 03:33 PM

Is there some reason you can't block the channel? I have channels blocked on my receivers including adult content. Just follow the menu system.


Was moving through the guide which is setup with a favorites list and saw that DirecTV had decided to add a new channel listing. Now, for some reason when they add a new HD channel it's NOT put in the guide, but when it's the chance to sell something they can figure out how. I'm talking about the "Club Erotix" Advertisement on channel 591.

This is what I found this afternoon...
Is this a horrible crime? No...but it's low-class and shows a complete disregard for parents. When you couple this type of stuff with the poorly working parental controls that has gone on for years you have to wonder where DirecTV's priorities are.

For the record...I don't want DirecTV to stop offering adult content...or any type of content for that matter. I believe that people can make their own decisions on what they want to watch. However, they should allow parents to COMPLETELY block any channel they deem to be objectionable from their children. This means blocked from the guide (including the fact the channel is even available), searches, advertisements, viewing, purchasing and downloading.

1. Allow parent to block ANY channel (meaning Playboy, MTV, CBS, etc.) completely from the guide, searches, DoD, etc.
2. Allow parent to block ALL content that exceeds the stated rating limit including the title of the content and the ability to download/record that content.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 03:36 PM

What is wrong with you people. D* put an adult oriented ad in his Fav list and everybody thinks that's ok! Ken S you should be upset. I haven't seen it but as soon as I get home from work tonight I'll be checking. If it is in my list I'll be calling customer service. If it happens again I'll cancell my service immediately.

That's not an ad, it's a channel listing. If anyone's gonna be that much of a prude, maybe they shouldn't be getting satellite.

All it says is "Club Erotix 6 channel block". BFD.

Cut the TV off, cut the internet off. No more problems. And ya might save some money in the process.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 03:41 PM

That is the whole issue. It is not an ad it is a channel listing. This is really being blown out of proportion. IF you watch you satellite programming everyday, shouldn't you notice any new channels and block any inappropriate ones?

That's not an ad, it's a channel listing. If anyone's gonna be that much of a prude, maybe they shouldn't be getting satellite.

All it says is "Club Erotix 6 channel block". BFD.

Cut the TV off, cut the internet off. No more problems. And ya might save some money in the process.



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Posted 12 November 2008 - 03:49 PM

Thank you Imunster:

I don't want to be down on anyone. I could see their point if on one of their channels, there was an ad playing for DTVs adult channels, or even a banner in the listings or menu screens. I could see complaining then.

Raising kids was much easier 30 years ago. Or it just seems like it.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 03:53 PM

I guess some people don't realize that the adult programming has been in the upper 500's for years. Block everything from 580-599.

Thank you Imunster:

I don't want to be down on anyone. I could see their point if on one of their channels, there was an ad playing for DTVs adult channels, or even a banner in the listings or menu screens. I could see complaining then.

Raising kids was much easier 30 years ago. Or it just seems like it.



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Posted 12 November 2008 - 04:09 PM

If you just have a favorites list setup it will add new channels automatically that didn't exist before. What you want is your parental locks setup so that it blocks that type of content.


No, it won't add channels that never existed before ALL the time. For instance none of the new HD channels are ever added to my Favorites List. It does happen sometimes, but the standard is they are not added.

I have the channel block on...All of the other channels in that range were blocked as you could see.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 04:14 PM

That's not an ad, it's a channel listing. If anyone's gonna be that much of a prude, maybe they shouldn't be getting satellite.

All it says is "Club Erotix 6 channel block". BFD.

Cut the TV off, cut the internet off. No more problems. And ya might save some money in the process.


Oh, and what is that channel listing doing? It's advertising. If you bothered to read my first post you would have seen that I wasn't asking for anything to be denied to people that wanted to see it.

I just want the capability to protect my children from that content. Is that so hard to understand? Obviously, for you and some at DirecTV it must be. Now, if they had made sure their Parental Controls worked properly I wouldn't have a problem, but like many other things they don't and they should be fixed.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 04:16 PM

Is there some reason you can't block the channel? I have channels blocked on my receivers including adult content. Just follow the menu system.


Yes, a big reason...the channel block doesn't seem to work. Even when it does work it doesn't remove the content from things like Search or the name of the channels from the Guide. In some cases while you can't view the content you can download/record it.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 04:17 PM

the channel that is used to order the adult block was recently moved to a new channel that was not active before. the parental controls do not know to hide the channel as is is not in the list of channels to hide.

Annoying, but easily fixed

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 04:20 PM

hasan,

The constant ads for those types of shows and ED medications are going over the top. I like to listen to sports talk in the car, but you can't anymore when every other ad is espousing how big she likes it and warning about calling your doctor if it stays big for over four hours. I know some of these stations are doing everything they can to stay in business, but they're also selling out their future as children can't/shouldn't listen/watch them.


You raise a very good point, Ken. I have almost become "numb" to the "dysfunction" ads. It's all an indicator of values. Many feel things have gone the wrong way, many feel just the opposite, and the rest don't seem to care.

I will have to say, from an adult point of view, the first time I heard the "four hour warning", I laughed out loud...at least until my wife, a nurse anesthetist, told me it really was a very serious condition. Being medically ignorant, as well as easily amused, I still couldn't hear the commercial without a silly giggle.

I can't imagine having to explain what I was laughing about to my own children.
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 04:24 PM

That's not an ad, it's a channel listing. If anyone's gonna be that much of a prude, maybe they shouldn't be getting satellite.

All it says is "Club Erotix 6 channel block". BFD.

Cut the TV off, cut the internet off. No more problems. And ya might save some money in the process.


I don't think it's any more necessary to call those with whom you differ "prudes", than for them to call those on the other side of the issue "moral degenerates", do you? There is no place for that kind of ad hominem attack on classy forums like those provided by dbstalk.

The issue perhaps merits debate, but not that kind.
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 05:01 PM

That's not an ad, it's a channel listing. If anyone's gonna be that much of a prude, maybe they shouldn't be getting satellite.

All it says is "Club Erotix 6 channel block". BFD.

Cut the TV off, cut the internet off. No more problems. And ya might save some money in the process.

That is the whole issue. It is not an ad it is a channel listing. This is really being blown out of proportion. IF you watch you satellite programming everyday, shouldn't you notice any new channels and block any inappropriate ones?

He is using channel blocking, but apparently due to something on DirecTV's end, this did show up in his channel guide. I doubt anyone checks their guide every day (nor should they have to) for such problems - even if they do have kids. Once he's aware of it, he can take care of it. But it shouldn't show up there in the first place if DirecTV is doing things right.

As for the All it says is "Club Erotix 6 channel block". BFD. comment, I would be interested to see what shows up in the program description area at the top if that line was highlighted instead of the movie listing above it. Would it be as generic as the line in the guide itself, or would there be an inappropriate-for-children description of the programming carried on that channel like you get with the search results?

I'm not a prude by any means, but even people who may even watch pr0n still don't want descriptions of it flashed before the curious eyes of their kids. :nono2:




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