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#1 OFFLINE   Msguy

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 04:12 PM

The NFL needs to use the Flex Scheduling to put a few more meaningful games on Thanksgiving Day. The Dallas vs Seattle matchup is a mismatch this year as well.

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Posted 27 November 2008 - 09:54 PM

While I was in the "get Detroit off Thanksgiving Day" camp myself... after a little education on the history of why they have the game... I'm inclined to say it would be unfair to take it away from them since if it weren't for them starting the game on Thanksgiving back in the day (before it even was televised) then it wouldn't be a tradition.

I think the fair compromise has been the NFL Network 3rd game Thanksgiving night, which will not exactly flex based upon the season but will not feature a locked-in team like the two day games do with Detroit and Dallas.

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 08:21 AM

Yes, Dallas invented the Thanksgiving day game, that is why they are America's Team. It is tradition that you watch Detroit get beat while you are eating and Dallas win while you are napping.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 08:28 AM

Detroit should auction off their "rights" to the Thanksgiving Day game and use the proceeds to buy some better players. Or coaching. Or pay down the loan on Ford Field so they can afford more of the aforementioned accesories most pro football teams relish. :lol:

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 09:09 AM

Yes, Dallas invented the Thanksgiving day game, that is why they are America's Team. It is tradition that you watch Detroit get beat while you are eating and Dallas win while you are napping.


Get your story straight. Dallas started to play on Thanksgiving Day in 1966. Detroit started in 1934.

On getting other teams that day, I'm all for it but Detroit is not going to give up OUR tradition. For crying out loud! That's the only thing we have left! :lol: But really :(
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 09:35 AM

Detroit should auction off their "rights" to the Thanksgiving Day game and use the proceeds to buy some better players. Or coaching. Or pay down the loan on Ford Field so they can afford more of the aforementioned accesories most pro football teams relish. :lol:


Oh, money is not a problem. The Lions is the only money making business that the Fords have now. Even with the crappy teams that we had since ... ever, Ford field has been sold out for all the games since 2002 except 2 this season and they were close to being sold out.

So they have the money, where are the ideas? How can so many good players and coaches come by and stink up the place. They had Jeff Garcia crying! Barry Sanders retired because he saw that there was no way that he could win a SuperBowl with that organization. That tells you something. They were talking that we could get Matt Cassel since he'll be a free agent next year. Run Matt run.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 09:46 AM

While there was no way of knowing when the schedules were made, the matchups yesterday were terrible..... had me searching the movie channels for something else to watch.

The Texas and Texas A&M matchup was as advertised too.....
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 11:07 AM

I think the fair compromise has been the NFL Network 3rd game Thanksgiving night, which will not exactly flex based upon the season but will not feature a locked-in team like the two day games do with Detroit and Dallas.


True. I think this is OK. There is something to be said for tradition.

FWIW, I did like the Detroit game - if not simply because they are keeping up the fight for the 0-fer season as they should. Plus, the (lack of) performance got me out to take a nice walk earlier before Thanksgiving dinner...

(disclosure: every season I root for at least one team to go 0-fer for the season. I thought Cincinnati was on their way, then they had to screw up and win - and don't get me started on that Miami/Baltimore game last year....)

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 11:51 AM

All 3 games were turds yesterday, but the Lions were the only home team to get routed. Time for a change IMO.

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 11:58 AM

I'd rather watch the turkey cook in the oven for hours than watch Detroit play a football game on Thanksgiving ! <lol>

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 03:41 PM

No matter their record, it's Tradition.

Besides, any given Sunday* right?










*with the possible exception of the Lions

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 03:58 PM

While I was in the "get Detroit off Thanksgiving Day" camp myself... after a little education on the history of why they have the game... I'm inclined to say it would be unfair to take it away from them since if it weren't for them starting the game on Thanksgiving back in the day (before it even was televised) then it wouldn't be a tradition.


Yes, Dallas invented the Thanksgiving day game, that is why they are America's Team.

It's so amusing listening to incorrect facts being tossed around the internet.
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The 1920 Decatur Staleys moved from Decatur, IL to Chicago, IL in 1921.
The 1921 Chicago Staleys were renamed as the Chicago Bears in 1922.

The Staleys (Bears) played in the first 14 Thanksgiving Day games (1920-1933), 12 of which were against the Chicago Cardinals (which to this day are the only 2 charter members of the NFL who still exist).

For more about the Decatur Staleys and the Chicago Cardinals.
http://en.wikipedia....i/Chicago_Bears
http://en.wikipedia....izona_Cardinals

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Why did Detroit play that 1934 game instead of the Cardinals in the first place?
http://www.detroitli...?cont_id=147421

They were playing the Chicago Bears to decide the champion of the Western Division (and of course Da Bears won).

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In summary, if you REALLY want to celebrate a "tradition".

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Maybe the Chicago Bears should play the Arizona Cardinals every Thanksgiving, like they did from 1922-1933.

Celebrating AND RENEWING the rivalry of the only 2 charter members left in the NFL seems like a wonderful idea to little ole me.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 04:15 PM

Didn't the 'America's Team' BS come from some reporter back in the '70s.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 04:19 PM

The Lions and Dallas games should be inter- division games. It will create a better match ups

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 05:05 PM

Didn't the 'America's Team' BS come from some reporter back in the '70s.


It's one of the biggest reasons why I root against Dallas all year (well, except when they play the Redskins...) And, in the interest of full disclosure, I am a NY Giants fan.
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 07:27 PM

but its true....the 3 highest rated super bowls over the last 21 years all included the cowboys....coincidence....i think not.

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 09:31 PM

Didn't the 'America's Team' BS come from some reporter back in the '70s.


When did the Cowboys run for that office ? I didn't vote for them or the Atlanta Braves who made that claim too !

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 09:52 PM

Dallas and Detroit should just play each other on thanksgiving. That would solve half of the problem. :lol:

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 10:50 PM

The 1920 Decatur Staleys moved from Decatur, IL to Chicago, IL in 1921.
The 1921 Chicago Staleys were renamed as the Chicago Bears in 1922.

The Staleys (Bears) played in the first 14 Thanksgiving Day games (1920-1933), 12 of which were against the Chicago Cardinals (which to this day are the only 2 charter members of the NFL who still exist).

For more about the Decatur Staleys and the Chicago Cardinals.
http://en.wikipedia....i/Chicago_Bears
http://en.wikipedia....izona_Cardinals

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Why did Detroit play that 1934 game instead of the Cardinals in the first place?
http://www.detroitli...?cont_id=147421

They were playing the Chicago Bears to decide the champion of the Western Division (and of course Da Bears won).

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In summary, if you REALLY want to celebrate a "tradition".

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Maybe the Chicago Bears should play the Arizona Cardinals every Thanksgiving, like they did from 1922-1933.

Celebrating AND RENEWING the rivalry of the only 2 charter members left in the NFL seems like a wonderful idea to little ole me.


Thanks for the additional history... I think the real measuring stick here is asking vs taking away.

IF the league asked Detroit if they wanted to change things up, and Detroit agreed... then that would be fine.... but I wouldn't be in favor of just taking it away from them.

Sounds like the Chicago/Arizona thing just voluntarily went away and then Detroit established a new history. It's not like Detroit came in and took something away from those other teams.

That said... Maybe the NFL could at least try to get creative every once in a while with the matchups. As one person noted, why not a Dallas vs Detroit matchup sometimes and then they can have a completely different set of teams for the other game.

A Detroit/Chicago game would be a good option to move here too and it would be one that would happen every year anyway and get Chicago back on Thanksgiving. Dallas vs Arizona is on the schedule this year too so that could have happened as well.

There's lots of ways to enhance this thing without taking anything away.

In the meantime, it would be nice if the Detroit ownership/management would get on the stick and turn things around. I miss the good old days where Barry Sanders was around and the game was worth watching even if they lost.

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 10:53 PM

but its true....the 3 highest rated super bowls over the last 21 years all included the cowboys....coincidence....i think not.


And I was an idiot and die hard Cowboys fan for those. Then in 1998 or 1999 I finally woke up and realized what a classless organization they were. Now the team is made up of a bunch of overzealous showboaters like Romo, Owens and that bumbling idiot coach we had here that I couldn't stand. I finally got rid of my Aikman jersey a year or two ago.
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