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#61 OFFLINE   farmermike

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Posted 23 December 2008 - 11:36 AM

Better amp.
Superior video processing.
Better version of Audyssey processing.

Whether the diff is worth it to you is a different matter.

ps: You can't adequately judge the quality of either the video processing or the amp just by reading manufacturer spec-sheets.


Thanks for the info, but it's a moot point now. I made my buy and it's Sony:

Samsung HL67A750
Sony STR-DA4400ES
Sony PS3 Playstation (instead of a standalone Bluray player)

Decided to hang into my Polk speakers for now because I can't decide which way to go in that department. Heard about Orb Audio and they look interesting, but there's no way you can hear them unless you live in NY or LA and you can only buy them online.
Was thinking about Mirage Nanosats, but I might go all in on the Orbs. Gotta think some more and do more research.

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Posted 23 December 2008 - 11:40 AM

OK, how long until someone pops in to say, "You made a horrible decision!", "Sony? Dude, wrong choice!" etc.

:D

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

Opinions are my own but should be those of all Americans, who would be much better off intellectually, psychologically, and emotionally if that were the case.


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Posted 23 December 2008 - 02:42 PM

I can't deny that the Elite SC-05 is a fine receiver. However, if you don't need all the extra inputs and outputs, the Yamaha RX-V863 is an excellent choice at a little over half the price.


Well, I don't care about all the inputs as I wouldn't use most of them. To me it's about the audio. That Yamaha (almost any Yamaha with the possible exception of the RX-Z7) would never be able to compete with the ICE amps in the new pio's (05/07). There's a reason that Yamaha is half the price.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 23 December 2008 - 06:56 PM

OK, how long until someone pops in to say, "You made a horrible decision!", "Sony? Dude, wrong choice!" etc.:D


Won't bother me. I have yet to read one bad review of the upper end ES series receivers. CNet was absolutely crazy about them. I've had my Sony STR-DE675 since September 2001 and it has performed flawlessly. I have no complaints.

All the reviews say the Sony graphical interface is superb and the kind of software every receiver maker should emulate. Seems silly to spend $1K on a box and have to fight with text menus and a DOS-like interface. There's more to these receivers than just the tech specs. User friendliness is a major issue.

Now I just have to figure out what to do about speakers. Orbs? Mirage Nanosats? Klipsch RF-10 system? Aperion Intimus 4T? Can't decide. I wanted to spend less than a grand on them, but it doesn't look like that's going to be possible, especially since I want 4 surrounds and a new subwoofer so I can do 7.1 the right way.

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Posted 23 December 2008 - 09:31 PM

Won't bother me. I have yet to read one bad review of the upper end ES series receivers. CNet was absolutely crazy about them. I've had my Sony STR-DE675 since September 2001 and it has performed flawlessly. I have no complaints.

All the reviews say the Sony graphical interface is superb and the kind of software every receiver maker should emulate. Seems silly to spend $1K on a box and have to fight with text menus and a DOS-like interface. There's more to these receivers than just the tech specs. User friendliness is a major issue.

Now I just have to figure out what to do about speakers. Orbs? Mirage Nanosats? Klipsch RF-10 system? Aperion Intimus 4T? Can't decide. I wanted to spend less than a grand on them, but it doesn't look like that's going to be possible, especially since I want 4 surrounds and a new subwoofer so I can do 7.1 the right way.


Answering my own question tonite. Just bought PolkAudio RM85 surround system and added two more RM7 surrounds and a PSW125 subwoofer.

So I'm done with all my home theater shopping. And I managed to keep it under $5K, including TV stand and HDMI cables. All I have to buy is new speaker wire, connectors and 4 stands for my surrounds. Whew, glad that's done.

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 02:37 AM

Won't bother me. I have yet to read one bad review of the upper end ES series receivers. CNet was absolutely crazy about them. I've had my Sony STR-DE675 since September 2001 and it has performed flawlessly. I have no complaints.

All the reviews say the Sony graphical interface is superb and the kind of software every receiver maker should emulate. Seems silly to spend $1K on a box and have to fight with text menus and a DOS-like interface. There's more to these receivers than just the tech specs. User friendliness is a major issue.

Now I just have to figure out what to do about speakers. Orbs? Mirage Nanosats? Klipsch RF-10 system? Aperion Intimus 4T? Can't decide. I wanted to spend less than a grand on them, but it doesn't look like that's going to be possible, especially since I want 4 surrounds and a new subwoofer so I can do 7.1 the right way.


I'm certainly not criticizing him for getting that model. I was just surprised he did because of its price. I DO love the fact that it has tons of HDMI inputs!

FAITH: I find the lack of it disturbing.

Opinions are my own but should be those of all Americans, who would be much better off intellectually, psychologically, and emotionally if that were the case.


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Posted 30 December 2008 - 01:39 PM

Three pages and no one has suggested HK
I love mine. Get the HK AVR 354

It does everything and is easy to use / setup.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 02:44 PM

Three pages and no one has suggested HK
I love mine. Get the HK AVR 354

It does everything and is easy to use / setup.


1. No video passthrough.
2. Underpowered.
3. EZSET (one of the worst of the auto calibrations)
4. Audio synch issues with the PS3 via HDMI
5. Clips BTB/WTW
6. Random speaker level bug.
7. Sound loss issues when changing channels/FF, which needs a source change to correct.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 02 January 2009 - 02:32 PM

I vote for the Denon 3808 w/Audyssey. Great features and I love the Rhapsody subscription. Sound quality is exceptional. Only shortcoming I find with it is only one HDMI output. If you hate when commercials are much louder than regular programming then Audyssey is the answer.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 02:43 PM

What do you guys think of the Pioneer VSX-1018AH-K as a decent AVR?

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 03:33 PM

If you hate when commercials are much louder than regular programming then Audyssey is the answer.


What are these commercials of which you speak? :D
Who is this "Vod Kanockers" that you speak of?

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 07:05 PM

What are these commercials of which you speak? :D


Jezz, I get it...my sister continues to point out there is a 'mute' button.

I watch 90% sports, LIVE, don't care to much for Idol or Dance programming. I also can't time shift even just a little bit if I know the event is live. Can't do it.
I'm just saying, for what it does, Audyssey worked for me, aging, hard of hearing viewer tired of diving for the remote everytime something changes. Audyssey maybe isn't for the purist but it is working better than I expected for me.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 09:30 PM

What do you guys think of the Pioneer VSX-1018AH-K as a decent AVR?


I'm a big Pioneer fan, but in that price range, I'd get the Onkyo TX-SR706 (might cost you $100 - $150 more, depending). I think it's a much better receiver in terms of sound and features. It's also a Recommended Buy from Sound and Vision Magazine.

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 02 January 2009 - 09:43 PM

CNet doesn't have any official reviews of the 806, but there's one user review that's a bit frightening:


"Good sound, lots of connectivity, but video problems."
by imperito on November 14, 2008

Pros: The sound is great, driving my Aperion speakers. The video conversion is convenient, I can put everything on HDMI. Configuration isn't too difficult, nice to see a menu on the TV.
Cons: When displaying 1080p video from my Xbox 360, I see blue dots on the screen during dark scenes, even with the HDMI mode set to "Through". I don't think it is doing real pass through of the video. Doesn't happen on a 720p signal.
Summary: I like the sound, and the connectivity. The video on 720p is fine.

But the problem with 1080p video is very distracting,the whole screen would sparkle with blue dots during fade to black transitions. I had to switch to using 720p.


99% sure that is a bad HDMI cable and nothing else.

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 09:58 PM

99% sure that is a bad HDMI cable and nothing else.


Actually that's an issue that some Onkyo's have with gaming machines via HDMI (PS3/XBOX). You can usually correct it by going into the OSD menu and turning off immediate display.

You can also avoid the issue by choosing 720p or 1080i. It only happens when gaming (not watching Blu Ray via the PS3).

There's a thread about it on avforums

I'm sure Directv can't wait to get their hands on your unit.

 
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Posted 02 January 2009 - 09:59 PM

I have been more than satisfied with my Pioneer equipment.
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 02:05 PM

I'm a big Pioneer fan, but in that price range, I'd get the Onkyo TX-SR706 (might cost you $100 - $150 more, depending). I think it's a much better receiver in terms of sound and features. It's also a Recommended Buy from Sound and Vision Magazine.


Thanks Stew!

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 04:02 PM

I install Onkyo and Intergra receivers almost daily and they by far are the best bang for the buck. We as a company dropped Sony a few years ago because there quality went to crap. We use B&K for our high end systems but they are a little on the spendy side. I can't stress enough to you how easy the onkyo are to set up and use and the sound IS very good for it's price point.




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